Results 1 to 21 of 21

Thread: Squating without a rack

  1. #1
    Wannabebig Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    34

    Squating without a rack

    If the floor doesn't matter is it safe to squat without a power rack? So if you don't make the lift just throw the bar on the floor?

  2. #2
    OG SDS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Sweet Home
    Posts
    450
    I'd practice dumping the bar with some lighter weight on it to be sure I had the movement down before attempting heavy lifts. I'd probably still stick to 80-85% of my 1RM just to be safe even after that. If something happens and you wind up going over forward from the bottom of a rep you can't complete it'll get ugly fast.

  3. #3
    Paul killxswitch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Posts
    1,201
    What would you be using for squats, exactly?

  4. #4
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Toronto, Ontario
    Posts
    4,548
    You need to practice dumping the weight. A lot of olympic lifters practice dumping weights for that very reason.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    York, PA
    Posts
    1,036
    I use sawhorses, and yes, I squat more than 135lbs
    Last edited by manowar669; 01-26-2008 at 09:55 AM.
    The Gods taught us to forge Iron so that we would not be slaves-----old Germanic saying

    buy a chin up bar, sell the arm curl bar---Roddy

  6. #6
    Couldn't find IAMBUFF.COM
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    638
    I thought I was the only one to use sawhorses in the gym. A couple of years ago dad got adjustable heighth sawhorses, he has used them twice. The rest of the time they are my rack pull, static hold, farmers walk and dip stands. They work great!

    I love to see homemade equipment and cheap alternatives!!!

  7. #7
    Getting un-streamlined Progress's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Posts
    3,000
    I front squat without a rack all the time. Granted it's less weight than normal because I can only squat what I can clean. Clean up and clean down.

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    York, PA
    Posts
    1,036
    Quote Originally Posted by Progress View Post
    I front squat without a rack all the time. Granted it's less weight than normal because I can only squat what I can clean. Clean up and clean down.
    The crossfit model follows this. They even have a vid on the site showing "dumping" practice. I believe it's one of their safety orientation requirements (makes sense) that trainees are comfortable dumping weight. It seems only recently that crossfit started incorporating more back squats. If you could clean and front squat 300lbs, you'd be a strong mofo. New goal? hmmmmm
    The Gods taught us to forge Iron so that we would not be slaves-----old Germanic saying

    buy a chin up bar, sell the arm curl bar---Roddy

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    York, PA
    Posts
    1,036
    Quote Originally Posted by nddillon View Post
    I thought I was the only one to use sawhorses in the gym. A couple of years ago dad got adjustable heighth sawhorses, he has used them twice. The rest of the time they are my rack pull, static hold, farmers walk and dip stands. They work great!

    I love to see homemade equipment and cheap alternatives!!!
    I got the rack/bench, bar and 300lbs on craigslist for $70. I added another 250lbs weight from an auction for $25.

    It's not in the pic, but I use a plastic 5 gallon paint bucket as a squat box. It's the right height, and it has held me with 325 on my back when I failed a 15th rep. I just kinda fold forward at the hips with my back straight to dump the weight onto the sawhorses. The sawhorses are rated to 1200lbs each (static load), and I added the 2X4s as bumpers in case I drop the weight onto them.
    Last edited by manowar669; 01-26-2008 at 11:22 AM.
    The Gods taught us to forge Iron so that we would not be slaves-----old Germanic saying

    buy a chin up bar, sell the arm curl bar---Roddy

  10. #10
    THUNDER THIGHS! Fuzzy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Adelaide, South Australia
    Posts
    2,790
    Dumping weight is easy, eventually you become instinctive at it, i can tell the moment I come out wether I need to dump it.

    Just jump forward
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

    Dust out the vagina, and keep on lifting.

  11. #11
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Piqua, OH
    Posts
    1,451
    Quote Originally Posted by manowar669 View Post
    I use sawhorses, and yes, I squat more than 135lbs
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/ManOwaR669/100_0533.jpg[/IMG]
    but the question is what is that pad taped to the bar?

  12. #12
    WannabeStronger Scooter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    CT, USA
    Posts
    453
    Quote Originally Posted by smokinHawk View Post
    but the question is what is that pad taped to the bar?
    He's increasing the diameter of the bar to work on grip strength, I hope
    I went to Rhodestown and all I got was this high cholesterol

  13. #13
    Couldn't find IAMBUFF.COM
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    638
    And what exactly is wrong with using a pad???

  14. #14
    Light Weight Baby! ipwizard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    602
    Posts
    21
    I also started using a pad when doing squats. Before the back of my neck and shoulder area would be freaking sore from the bar.

    I take it off when im not squating.
    Last edited by ipwizard; 01-28-2008 at 01:34 PM.

  15. #15
    Senior Member deeder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    2,255
    Quote Originally Posted by nddillon View Post
    And what exactly is wrong with using a pad???
    Quote Originally Posted by ipwizard View Post
    I also started using a pad when doing squats. Before the back of my neck and shoulder area would be freaking sore from the bar.

    I take it off when im not squating.
    If you're using a pad you probably have the bar in a really bad position, don't know how to keep your back tight or some combination of the two.
    Full Powerlifting
    Squat - 595lbs -- 270kg -- Dec. 31, '09 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Bench - 374lbs -- 170kg -- Dec 20, '08 (@100kg class)
    Dead - 589lbs -- 267.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Total: 1537lbs -- 697.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)
    Bench Only -- 358lbs -- 162.5kg -- Nov. 25, '07 (Provincial Record @ 90kg class)
    Bench Only -- 376lbs -- 171kg -- Jan. 26, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)

  16. #16
    Light Weight Baby! ipwizard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    602
    Posts
    21
    Your probably right, it might be the way im resting the bar. I'll have to figure that out.

  17. #17
    Couldn't find IAMBUFF.COM
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    638
    Quote Originally Posted by deeder View Post
    If you're using a pad you probably have the bar in a really bad position, don't know how to keep your back tight or some combination of the two.
    My back stays tight, I just feel more comfortable with 570 lbs padded over my spine.
    Just my preference...don't worry if it makes you feel better I will just say I am wrong

  18. #18
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Piqua, OH
    Posts
    1,451
    Quote Originally Posted by nddillon View Post
    My back stays tight, I just feel more comfortable with 570 lbs padded over my spine.
    Just my preference...don't worry if it makes you feel better I will just say I am wrong
    if you are doing the 570lbs like you say (full squat right? ) i would think with that girly pad it would slip out from your back, which is one reason not to have the pad. those pads dont give the best friction.

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    York, PA
    Posts
    1,036
    Quote Originally Posted by smokinHawk View Post
    but the question is what is that pad taped to the bar?
    LOL, the pad was added when my fiancee started squatting heavy. I just sliced a piece off of her cheapo yoga mat and duct-taped it around the bar. It saves my shins a bit during deadlifts and dynamic cleans.
    Last edited by manowar669; 01-30-2008 at 10:07 AM.
    The Gods taught us to forge Iron so that we would not be slaves-----old Germanic saying

    buy a chin up bar, sell the arm curl bar---Roddy

  20. #20
    Couldn't find IAMBUFF.COM
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    638
    Quote Originally Posted by smokinHawk View Post
    if you are doing the 570lbs like you say (full squat right? ) i would think with that girly pad it would slip out from your back, which is one reason not to have the pad. those pads dont give the best friction.
    In fact, it provides far better friction and much more surface area for it...but thanks for your concern of my girly pad.

  21. #21
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Piqua, OH
    Posts
    1,451
    sure it does better then knurling keep using your tampon on there

Similar Threads

  1. Squat Depth in a Squat Rack
    By muscleup in forum Bodybuilding & Weight Training
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 12-21-2005, 03:10 PM
  2. Which exercises are acceptable in the squat rack?
    By Determination in forum Bodybuilding & Weight Training
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 08-17-2005, 06:36 PM
  3. A jerk I talked to curling in a power rack
    By Vsire in forum General Chat
    Replies: 50
    Last Post: 08-01-2005, 11:39 PM
  4. power racks
    By sidney in forum Bodybuilding & Weight Training
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 01-30-2005, 04:34 PM
  5. Squatting in 05 Part 2
    By Keith Wassung in forum Powerlifting and Strength Training
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 01-27-2005, 06:46 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •