The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    Squats vs. Decline Leg press

    Ok... i hate squats. I try to get the proper form and what not but my kness are killing me and i just hate the mofos.
    On the bright side i love doing incline leg press. So i was thinking of switching to doing just 6-7 sets of decline leg press instead of 4 sets of squats and 3 of decline leg press.

    What do you guys think/suggest ?

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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    I think it's an easy way out. Learn the proper way to squat. Yes they are harder, yes they hurt more, yes they make you want to puke. Just do them and thank me/us later.
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    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
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    I total agree with latman, but if you can't squat with heavy weight.
    you can try to do 2 light sets of squats then 2 heavy sets of Leg presses.

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    There is no substitute for squatting. Period.
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    damn it i was afraid of that.. oh well.. back to squatting it is i guess... phuk.

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    EMan.....I'm going to have to give up squats in all liklihood, as they are DESTROYING my knees, dont' let it get bad for you, I'm stopping before they do permanent, or even short term damage. Of course, I'm trying to find some way to do them without the knee damage, as they are a great exercise

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    I say a *good* leg press is just as good.

    Or if you're of the 'nothing compares to free-weights' mentality get a trap-bar and do trap-bar deadlifts.

    Doing an exercise because someone has proclaimed it 'the best' is just silly and often dangerous. The squat, as a movement, has some serious drawbacks(It's pretty orthopedically unsound unless you are happen to have the right proportions--short limbs and torso.)

    If your form-sucks and your knees are hurting it would be very stupid to continue doing them. As long as you work hard, the leg press can produce great results.

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    Accipter- how do you know it is the squat doing it? What are all the other leg exercises you have been performing?
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    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
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    Been squattin' for 2 years now, no knee problems for me. I go all the way down, I found that half squats are harder on the knees.

    Try getting knee wraps.
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    i agree i have had kneee problems and have been squatting for 2 years straight, going 2-3 inches below parallel

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    How does a decline leg press work? I've never seen one.

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    (I made another post before about squats killing my knees). Basically I did it by process of elimination, seeing which exercise was causin my knees to lock up for a week at a time. I figure heavy leg extensions were doing it, (they might have contributed), but by process of elimination, it's squats, without a doubt at this point. If I even do a light 5 rep set of them, my knees randomly lock up and give out for about a week afterwards my form is pretty much impecable as well, I'm gonna have to see if there's anyway around it, I'm thinking like 3 or 4 ultra light warm ups, see if that works. wish me luck guys!

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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    What type of stance do you use? Try and describe your form if possible. I wish I could see you squat to help try and critique your form better.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 515 SQ 295 BE 570 DL.....1375 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    515 SQ 302.5 BE 585 DL

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    decline leg press means you sit in this chain in the decline position.. with legs up at 45 degree angel..and put your soles on a plate what is connected to the weights.. and you move the plate forward and reverse.
    kinda hard to describe..but i think this is how the basic leg press is.

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