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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    My current routine..

    I've been using this routine and I've put on some mass, I'm still pretty skinny though. I think it's time to change it up to incorporate more serious movements such as BO Rows and deadlifts and see how it can be simplified.. My diet is alright, I need to throw down some more food but as far as keeping it clean I do a great job. While size has been my primary focus I'd like to increase my strength as my numbers are pretty low.

    I'm about 6'1 and last weighed in at 202 lbs.

    incline 5x8 120
    flat 5x8 140 165x5
    decline 5x8 55
    dbl flyes 5x8 25
    narrow grip 5x8 95
    tri ext 5x8 40
    tri puld 5x12 25

    cbl row 5x8 140
    chin 14, 10, 7, 5, 4
    lat pull 5x8 140
    dbl curl 5x8 30
    rev preach 5x8 65
    narrow curl 2x10 85
    wide curl 2x10 85
    21's with 55

    dbl should 5x8 50
    plate raise 5x12 25
    bradley press 5x8 65
    side lat 5x8 10
    for lat 5x8 15
    shrugs: 5x12 155
    dbel shrug: 5x8 50

    as far as the wheels go, i was squatting pretty good but then i cut it out because i got lazy and lost focus. i intend to start squatting again this week so please don't flame me too bad.
    Last edited by Haaji Dont Surf; 02-17-2008 at 02:25 PM.
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    Ugh, read some stickies here man. Looks like you have been a member for awhile, so you should know that. A LOT of bi and tri sets in there. And, you didn't include any leg work, I know you commented about squats, but there are tons of leg exercises one can do. Your not doing anything? Also how old are you? I don't want to rip you for your strength, but if you are 202 pounds those weights should be up. My thinking is your doing too much and not training intensely enough. others????


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    I am nineteen, I'll be twenty in a month. I've been a member for a long time but I havn't been on the boards in a looooong time.
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    Terrible routine. You don't need anywhere near that much volume. You don't need that many exercises. "Hitting muscles from every angle" is unnecessary. No legs.

    Try Rippetoe's Starting Strength or something like it.
    Last edited by noahfor123; 02-17-2008 at 02:52 PM.
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    Try Rippetoe's Starting Strength or something like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahfor123 View Post
    Try Rippetoe's Starting Strength or something like it.
    This may be a stupid question but by switching from my current routine to rippetoes, I will not sacrifice anything as far as muscle is concerned if backed by proper diet correct? When backing away from hitting the upper, lower, middle parts of my chest and from loading up on my arms and shoulders, I won't lose any mass that I already have.. I will simply either maintain it or gain, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haaji Dont Surf View Post
    This may be a stupid question but by switching from my current routine to rippetoes, I will not sacrifice anything as far as muscle is concerned if backed by proper diet correct? When backing away from hitting the upper, lower, middle parts of my chest and from loading up on my arms and shoulders, I won't lose any mass that I already have.. I will simply either maintain it or gain, right?
    By switching to Starting Strength you're not backing away from hitting your upper, middle, and lower chest. The bench presses in the program will cover all three parts, which, in the context of exercise are really only one part. It's only three parts spatially. What you are backing away from is overtraining the **** out of your chest.

    Anyway, yeah, if you are gaining strength and gaining weight on Starting Strength then you won't be losing any of the mass that you already have.
    The Iron never lies to you. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go, but 200 pounds is always 200 pounds - a warm-up.

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    did the first workout today.. did 185 for the squats, 165 for bench, and 185 for deadlift. also i need to add that i have to run everyday.. doing one and a half miles building up to four a day.. not by choice so im wondering how much this will effect my squats and dl's?
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    Are the numbers you posted for squats, bench and deadlift your maxes? I agree with the others, the routine you posted is good if you're trying to tone but if you're trying to gain muscle you need to up your weight and do fewer reps along with a good diet full of protein...

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    Running will hurt the amount of mass you put on, not strength adaptations. Those numbers are fine, just add 5lbs to your squat every workout (=15lbs per week), or even 10lbs every now and then if you feel you're progressing fast enough.

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    Also, make sure you're squatting low enough.
    Last edited by noahfor123; 02-19-2008 at 08:51 AM.
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    I'm just trying to eat a lot to make up for the running. As far as those numbers, they were for the sets, not my max's. And when I am squatting my ass is touching my calves. I'm still sore from mondays lift but it is my understanding that I am to squat through the soreness for tomorrows workout?
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    Find a pre-made routine. I learned the hard way that self made routines are just no good typically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveW View Post
    Find a pre-made routine. I learned the hard way that self made routines are just no good typically.
    yeah I'm starting rippetoes. my legs are killing me.
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