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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    I don't see a problem with this decision. It seems courteous.

    Honestly, college or not, I could see it being much harder on the women to keep to those six hours a week than on anyone else to try and fit sessions into the remaining 60 or 70.

    note: I'm Canadian, and we do adapt whenever reasonable to allow for special needs of different cultures.
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    No men are allowed in the gym between 3 p.m. and 5 p.m. on Mondays, and between 8 a.m. and 10 a.m on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Even the staff during those times is all women.
    Doesn't seem like a huge inconvenience to me. I'm sure half the people raising a stink don't work out at all...
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    I'm sure they enjoy their government funded loans and grants while wanting to segregate themselves due to their religious bulls***. What happened to seperation of Church and state?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirino83 View Post
    this is ****ing stupid. You don't like the American ways and cohed facilities...simple... LEAVE AND GO BACK TO YOUR OWN ****ING COUNTRY
    Amen, brother.
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    It's a private institution which makes it an entirely different situation. A Harvard education is a privilege, not a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Beast View Post
    What happened to seperation of Church and state?
    I don't know. When was the last time a president, or candidate, didn't invoke God in at least one of his speeches at some point in their career?
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    See my major problem with this whole issue is that it is biased and discriminitory (sp?). If a group of fat people got together and said they felt uncomfortable workout out in front of girls, would they give them their own time? NO! How about really scrawny people uncomfortable in front of strong people, would they get their own time? Yet again, no! Either you have to take action for everyone or for no one, it is wrong to pick and chose what groups you help out. Also, dont give me that argument that it is their culture/religion. The negative effects of poor self image can completely destroy individuals so it is fair to say that self-conciousness can compete with culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _8_Ball View Post
    This is exactly the type of thing which breads racism.

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    I must agree with this statement. While I personally do not think its a big deal considering its only six hours sometimes I think we take it a little to far not to offend others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    It's a private institution which makes it an entirely different situation. A Harvard education is a privilege, not a right.
    I work in Financial Aid and represent several major universities. I guarantee the vast majority of the students there receive some type of government or state aid, funded by American taxpayers. Regardless of it's private, they are one of, if not the, most famous American university, and IMO, shouldn't be such a pushover for foreign country and religious complaining BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBoxer View Post
    I don't know. When was the last time a president, or candidate, didn't invoke God in at least one of his speeches at some point in their career?
    They're excellent sales(wo)men catering to a religious base. We're talking about a school and their policies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HahnB View Post
    So what, why should everyone else be handicapped because some girl believes some ridiculous religious binding? I guess the cafeteria better stop serving meat on Fridays during Lent. Your religion should never interfere with my daily life-especially something so stupid. Is there anyone here that actually believes this nonsense is rational?
    They're accomadating a group of their customers needs. They're a private institution, giving them free reign on these issues. They did not do this campus wide, or at the larger more equipped facilities, they gave them the least equipped and least used facility for 6 hours a week. Nothing irrational about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Beast View Post
    They're excellent sales(wo)men catering to a religious base. We're talking about a school and their policies.
    Not a public school and their policies. Law>Prejudice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirino83 View Post
    this is ****ing stupid. You don't like the American ways and cohed facilities...simple... LEAVE AND GO BACK TO YOUR OWN ****ING COUNTRY
    I'm Pueblo Indian... And What Ghetto in Europe did you and your ancestors come from?
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    My ancestors came from England in the 1600's (verified), and helped make this country what it is today.

    But since I'm white and not a minority, I guess it's not important, and maybe even racist, to mention that we've only established countries and governments, invented just about everything, and basically made life what it is today ... then we hand it over to bitching ass crying minority groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyK View Post
    They're a private institution who are trying to meet the needs and/or demands of their customers. They can do as they please.
    So if I owned a pub, I should be able to reserve all but five minutes of the week to non-Irish, to meet the needs of my customers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HahnB View Post
    So what, why should everyone else be handicapped because some girl believes some ridiculous religious binding? I guess the cafeteria better stop serving meat on Fridays during Lent. Your religion should never interfere with my daily life-especially something so stupid. Is there anyone here that actually believes this nonsense is rational?
    I have to agree I think it's ridiculous to do this. If these women really don't want to workout with men they should have saved up money together and bought an at home gym.

    Now at the same time the school has multiple gyms and it's one day a week for 6 hours not such a big deal. Then again maybe the other gyms are very crowded during that day because of this situation. I'm sure this affects some other students in a negative way probably not many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyK View Post
    I'm Pueblo Indian... And What Ghetto in Europe did you and your ancestors come from?
    They came from italy and germany...they also didn't expect their needs to be catered to like these particular muslims...and they adapted by learning the AMERICAN WAYS AND LANGUAGE

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    That college should start installing religious water fountains too!....and parking spots! lol This is so dumb.

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    @ Cirino83, anelka, and HahnB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenom View Post
    I'd bust in during muslim hours and look at them and make inappropriate sexual comments to them.

    Best post of the thread bro ...

    Honestly , it's a college so I'd teach them something ... as in , covering up is such a stupid idea ... get over it and work with other PEOPLE . Time to learn something without degrading yourselves any longer .
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    If I ran Havard it would only be a business decision.

    Determine the ratio of muslim women who want private workout time vs. the total number of people working out across the entire campus.

    If there are 6 women for 6,000 people working out (assuming many at Harvard don't work out, lol), then they should get .1% of the available gym hours.

    If there are 4 gyms available 16 hours each day, that equals 64 available hours. 64 hours X .1% = 3.84 minutes.

    they should get 3.84 minutes completely to themselves.

    Sounds like they need to recruit more people to workout with them if they want to get some full sessions in.

    PS - weaklings and fat people are also welcome to petition for closed gym sessions.

    Wait, that's awesome, I'll seperate the gyms into the Fat Gym. The Weakling Gym (that's where I'd go). The woman gym. ...and the Buff gym.
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    Haha i think mickyjune understands my point...or hes making fun of me, i cant tell...but yeah i know Havard has the right to do what they want but its still a bit much.

    They should start curving all of the white students math grades bc they dont want to feel inferior to the indian/asian genuises .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGuru View Post
    They should start curving all of the white students math grades bc they dont want to feel inferior to the indian/asian genuises .
    I'm really offended. The asian in me is going to kick your butt.

    ...but I was serious. The only way a private institution should make decisions is per business reasons.

    ...maybe they are trying to attract more muslim students to get some sort of grant, like someone said earlier in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarGuru View Post
    Haha i think mickyjune understands my point...or hes making fun of me, i cant tell...but yeah i know Havard has the right to do what they want but its still a bit much.

    They should start curving all of the white students math grades bc they dont want to feel inferior to the indian/asian genuises .

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