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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    While benching should i...

    i usually keep my feet on the bench because i heard it isolates my chest? is this true or should i keep my feet on the floor.

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    While you're benching and all of a sudden if you lose balance, it's a good way to hurt yourself and possibly others. So keep your feet on the ground.

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    Feet on the floor.
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    Keep them on the ground, it will keep you balanced and allow you to push more weight and we all More Weight = Bigger Muscles! A Flat Back along with touching the weight a little higher 2-3" About Nipples will belp us more chest as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPM Osgood View Post
    Keep them on the ground, it will keep you balanced and allow you to push more weight and we all More Weight = Bigger Muscles! A Flat Back along with touching the weight a little higher 2-3" About Nipples will belp us more chest as well!
    you mean not touching my chest and stopping a lil before?

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    no, he meant on your chest. but here is what you do:

    you get a really good routine. one that has you squatting about twice a week, DLing once, and benching twice. you have to make sure you counter all of that benching with some pulling so you gotta now do some type of rowing twice a week too. this induced an increase of hypertrophy and strength for me: at the beginning of the week i would work up to a 1rm on bench with strictly powerlifting form and at the end of the week do some incline DB benching with a higher rep scheme like 4x8. focus on the muscle contraction pushing the weight up and then lower the weight relatively slow. also, try to give a nice muscle contraction at the bottom of the movement too, you will like it. and eat.
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    sometimes if ur doin lightweight you can hold your feet up. works the core slightly (balance wise). but definately if ur goin for say 1RM, keep ur feet planted for both safety and big pushes

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    isolate chest, lol, so do you work your feet when they are on the floor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torrok View Post
    isolate chest, lol, so do you work your feet when they are on the floor?
    lol...

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    Feet on the bench is a cardinal sin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by failed View Post
    you mean not touching my chest and stopping a lil before?
    No Still Touch Your Chest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMonkey View Post
    no, he meant on your chest. but here is what you do:

    you get a really good routine. one that has you squatting about twice a week, DLing once, and benching twice. you have to make sure you counter all of that benching with some pulling so you gotta now do some type of rowing twice a week too. this induced an increase of hypertrophy and strength for me: at the beginning of the week i would work up to a 1rm on bench with strictly powerlifting form and at the end of the week do some incline DB benching with a higher rep scheme like 4x8. focus on the muscle contraction pushing the weight up and then lower the weight relatively slow. also, try to give a nice muscle contraction at the bottom of the movement too, you will like it. and eat.

    I would not think Squating twice a week would be that great of an Idea? I would only work each body part Once every 5 days Max. Other then that the rest looks Great!
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    I would not think Squating twice a week would be that great of an Idea? I would only work each body part Once every 5 days Max. Other then that the rest looks Great!
    Uhh... What? You gotta squat more than once per week... I squat at least twice a week, if not 3 times. If your routine calls for like 10 sets of squats on leg day then maybe, but my routine calls for a split and without squatting at least twice per week my legs wouldn't get any stronger. It's just not enough to squat once. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougyp View Post
    It's just not enough to squat once. IMO
    well..........................................

    it all depends on what you are doing.


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    well..........................................

    it all depends on what you are doing.
    IMO - in my opinion.

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    yep and IMO it could be enough to squat once per week or once every two weeks. Again, it depends on what one is doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dougyp View Post
    Uhh... What? You gotta squat more than once per week... I squat at least twice a week, if not 3 times. If your routine calls for like 10 sets of squats on leg day then maybe, but my routine calls for a split and without squatting at least twice per week my legs wouldn't get any stronger. It's just not enough to squat once. IMO
    Well if your squatting Heavy then Once is good. Even BBing Pro's Like Jay/Ronnie/Brance Squat only every 5 Days, Max. Powerlifting Pro's Like Big Byrd/Ed Coan/Bolton Squat once a Week...

    If your able to Squat 2 Times a Week then your not going Heavy Enough or working hard enough....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPM Osgood View Post
    If your able to Squat 2 Times a Week then your not going Heavy Enough or working hard enough....
    Completely agreed, unless you are doing an ME and DE day. But then there are so many other variables which come into play, and that is not what the OP is doing right now anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Torrok View Post
    isolate chest, lol, so do you work your feet when they are on the floor?
    Ever done a leg up bench? If you're like me and you have a big arch when you do legs up you can't arch as much and so you hit the chest harder. I always get a big pump in my chest when doing leg up work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    Completely agreed, unless you are doing an ME and DE day. But then there are so many other variables which come into play, and that is not what the OP is doing right now anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPM Osgood View Post
    Well if your squatting Heavy then Once is good. Even BBing Pro's Like Jay/Ronnie/Brance Squat only every 5 Days, Max. Powerlifting Pro's Like Big Byrd/Ed Coan/Bolton Squat once a Week...

    If your able to Squat 2 Times a Week then your not going Heavy Enough or working hard enough....

    Rippetoe's calls for squatting three times a week. So do some programs by Bill Starr.

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    I saw a guy at my gym yesterday bring another bench over so he could put his legs out straight as if he was laying down to do bench. I had never seen that before, anyone else???
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    sounds like that would hurt the back imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPM Osgood View Post
    Well if your squatting Heavy then Once is good. Even BBing Pro's Like Jay/Ronnie/Brance Squat only every 5 Days, Max. Powerlifting Pro's Like Big Byrd/Ed Coan/Bolton Squat once a Week...

    If your able to Squat 2 Times a Week then your not going Heavy Enough or working hard enough....
    Huuuuge over generalisation right here.

    Adapationa and conditioning, as well as sqautting style can make a big difference.
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