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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  • Always.......im serious about hitting my goals

    18 30.51%
  • Never.....i work out, not train so i dont even have goals

    8 13.56%
  • Sometimes.......i know enough to eyeball things and get close

    24 40.68%
  • who needs to weigh food when you have McDonalds?

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    Who weighs their food????

    Curious to see how many of you guys/girls weigh your food. Everybody knows Nutrition is paramount to hitting your lifting goals, I'm curious to see how many people go the extra mile to KNOW what they are putting in their bodies on a daily basis.

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    I do. I will probably continue to do so for a while. It keeps my head in the game and I enjoy feeling like I have control over SOMETHING.
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    i feel the same way Wednesday. I weigh almost everything every day, even though i can usually eyeball it i still weigh it because i like knowing.

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    I think a certain personality just needs accountability. Leave me to my own devices and I'll eat tacos and drink beer til sundown.

    I think as I become more comfortable in the gym and find my niche, that food will be less of a focus. Right now, its the only thing Im doing right, so I feel good about it.
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    I weigh and measure everything pretty much.

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    I've been counting cals and such for long enough that I'm trying to eyeball things lately. if my weight starts getting off it's back to the calorie counting for me.
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    Only when pre-contest. Any other time I just eat larger portions and try to keep it healthy. cheesecake is my mortal arch-enemy.
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    man I love cheesecake. The Cheesecake Factory is on of my fav restaurants.

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    yeah I weigh it when I can but I'm always running around town staying at places eating other peoples food, so I just go for big portions. Sometimes it annoys people the shear volume of food I consume, but heck I like eating. I think once I'm out of school and into my own place I will have more control over the quantity of food I consume. I'm serious about my goals, and I like when it pisses people off.
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    I train, but I don't weigh my food... I realize that's not a choice on your little poll.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    I train, but I don't weigh my food... I realize that's not a choice on your little poll.
    Same

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    Likewise. Your poll is biased, assuming that weighing your food means you are serious about your goals.

    Lots of athletes are serious about their goals and have no need to be that accurate about food intake. I'd argue virtually NO ONE needs to be that accurate, including competitive bodybuilders.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Stagg View Post
    Likewise. Your poll is biased, assuming that weighing your food means you are serious about your goals.

    Lots of athletes are serious about their goals and have no need to be that accurate about food intake. I'd argue virtually NO ONE needs to be that accurate, including competitive bodybuilders.

    Why? As we know, calories are most important when adding/losing size. Wouldn't it be wise to track what you're consuming if you're not gaining weight or adding fat too quickly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Stagg View Post
    Likewise. Your poll is biased, assuming that weighing your food means you are serious about your goals.

    Lots of athletes are serious about their goals and have no need to be that accurate about food intake. I'd argue virtually NO ONE needs to be that accurate, including competitive bodybuilders.
    have you tried competing in a BB show? very very few people MIGHT be able to get away with not knowing what they are eating while prepping for a show. using Pros's as an example wont work either as they are the anomalies.

    I included the McDonalds option for the guys that know they just need to get in a ton of calories to grow and thats good enough for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelKeck View Post
    have you tried competing in a BB show? very very few people MIGHT be able to get away with not knowing what they are eating while prepping for a show. using Pros's as an example wont work either as they are the anomalies.

    I included the McDonalds option for the guys that know they just need to get in a ton of calories to grow and thats good enough for them.

    Quite a few pro's don't track what they eat. They have selected meals that they consume everyday and go by that. I find it hard to understand why they wouldn't have to track especially coming into a show..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Why? As we know, calories are most important when adding/losing size. Wouldn't it be wise to track what you're consuming if you're not gaining weight or adding fat too quickly?
    The short answer: nutrition information is based on averages of amounts measured in a lab. The 4 ounces of 93% lean ground beef you have and the 4 ounces of 93% ground beef I have will not have exactly the same amounts of macronutrients.

    Estimating is fine for the vast majority of people, and pretty fine adjustments can be made by simple changes not requiring weighing your food.
    Squats work better than supplements.
    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Stagg View Post
    The short answer: nutrition information is based on averages of amounts measured in a lab. The 4 ounces of 93% lean ground beef you have and the 4 ounces of 93% ground beef I have will not have exactly the same amounts of macronutrients.

    Estimating is fine for the vast majority of people, and pretty fine adjustments can be made by simple changes not requiring weighing your food.

    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelKeck View Post
    have you tried competing in a BB show? very very few people MIGHT be able to get away with not knowing what they are eating while prepping for a show. using Pros's as an example wont work either as they are the anomalies.
    Me? No. Not my cup of tea.

    I do know a number of National level physique competitors and a couple of professionals. Most of them do not weigh all of their food. As someone said, they have very strict diets that consist of the same thing, over and over again, so there is little need to weigh food. An extra ounce of fish isn't going to matter. Most of them make weekly adjustments.

    Further, much of bodybuilding precontest prep is manipulation of soduim and water, and the calories actually play less a role when you are close to a contest.



    I swear, it's like I said the Pope is a pedophile.
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    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    When on a diet either to gain or lose weight I weight and messure all meals. It is the key to getting to your goals in the fastest and best Way!
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    if you have solid nutritional knowledge and know what your eating, i dont think its necessary unless you are in contest prep. Some people have absolutely no idea how much 2000 calories, 200 grams of carbs and 200 grams of protien is though so it would benefit someone like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Stagg View Post
    Me? No. Not my cup of tea.

    I do know a number of National level physique competitors and a couple of professionals. Most of them do not weigh all of their food. As someone said, they have very strict diets that consist of the same thing, over and over again, so there is little need to weigh food. An extra ounce of fish isn't going to matter. Most of them make weekly adjustments.

    Further, much of bodybuilding precontest prep is manipulation of soduim and water, and the calories actually play less a role when you are close to a contest.



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    pros and national level people are the exception not the rule, its why they are pro's. the amount of chemicals and drugs goin at that level can make diet a much smaller piece of the puzzle than it is for the rest of us.

    only the last week or so of prep is sodium and water manipulation. I think calories make up the vast majority of the other 15 weeks or so

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    You brought them up, remember?

    And they do it without a scale, because they are making large weekly adjustments.

    It isn't the drugs, and diet is a huge part of the puzzle.
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    "You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
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    I can pretty much eye out my portions now. I eat pretty much the same foods all the time. 6 oz of chicken, beef, steak, etc are easy to eye out now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelKeck View Post
    pros and national level people are the exception not the rule, its why they are pro's. the amount of chemicals and drugs goin at that level can make diet a much smaller piece of the puzzle than it is for the rest of us.

    only the last week or so of prep is sodium and water manipulation. I think calories make up the vast majority of the other 15 weeks or so
    I've done 2 bodybuilding shows. Winning my division in my first one and placing 2nd out of 18 in my 2nd. I've never weighed my food.

    ...and according to the judges, the only reason I lost my 2nd one was because the guy had 15lbs on me. If I'd even been 10lbs heavier, I out posed and out conditioned but sizing won out. I never had to weigh my food.

    You can be as "extreme" as you want to be but it all boils down to knowing what you're doing. I did well enough and have no doubt that I could again, without having to weigh my food. I've got too much other stuff to worry about.

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