# Thread: if the back of a base model neon had handles...

1. ## if the back of a base model neon had handles...

could you deadlift it? me and my brother have been trying to figure it out, approximately how much force it would take, considering the engine and tranny would act as a countweight to you lifting it. they weigh about 2400 lbs total.

2. It's kind of tricky just trying to figure it out without some more specific dimensions. Biggest factor is where most of the weight is located on the car.

However, just taking a shot in the dark, I'd say it can be done by someone with pretty decent strength.

3. My buddy has a pontiac wave and it weighs 2359lbs according to the site and it took 6 of us to pick it up fully off the ground and turn it sideways in a parking spot.

4. Originally Posted by Detard
My buddy has a pontiac wave and it weighs 2359lbs according to the site and it took 6 of us to pick it up fully off the ground and turn it sideways in a parking spot.
thats picking the entire car up, thats not what i want to do. im talking about the back end of a base model neon.

5. I'm going to go ahead and say you could probably do it.

6. To figure it out without actually doing it I assume you would need to know how much weight is in front of the front axle and how much after it. With those numbers you could easily figure out how much weight you would be lifting.

7. Originally Posted by Genacide
To figure it out without actually doing it I assume you would need to know how much weight is in front of the front axle and how much after it. With those numbers you could easily figure out how much weight you would be lifting.
thats the problem its near impossible to find that stuff...

8. depends on the wheelbase, ride height (and therefore handle height), your own height, possibly the tire circumference, and weight overhanging the wheels

among other factors I'm probably overlooking.

9. Why not just grab on and have at it? Easiest way to find out.

10. Originally Posted by nhlfan
depends on the wheelbase, ride height (and therefore handle height), your own height, possibly the tire circumference, and weight overhanging the wheels

among other factors I'm probably overlooking.
center of gravity too. The further forward it is the more leverage you'll have from behind.

11. Originally Posted by prizeoasis
could you deadlift it? me and my brother have been trying to figure it out, approximately how much force it would take, considering the engine and tranny would act as a countweight to you lifting it. they weigh about 2400 lbs total.
I don't have engineering plans to a neon in front of me, but I would lay money that the horizontal mass of the drive train is behind the front axle. In other words, they are NOT counterweights. In order for the engine and tranny to act as a coutnerweight to assist you in lifting the rear of the car, they would have to be somewhere near the front bumper.

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