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    Quote Originally Posted by IronGrip IV View Post
    I've been doing real man squats for 3 weeks and loving it! Not sure what all I'll do with my smith machine once I put it back together.
    Sell it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyBomber View Post
    He was an awful good sport about it wasn't he? I probably couldn't have taken that. lol

    Built is right. I'm 38, been squatting and DLing for years, no back problems, no knees problems, in fact both are healthier than ever.

    Good deal dude.
    Well yesterday morning when I got up to check the thread my first reaction was wow these guys are being pretty harsh, but then I realized that yea I do want to do things the right way and definitely don't want to be injured so I decided that I would use the squat rack.

    Just to let you guys know that tomorrow I plan on doing legs which I will update my sig and change my goal since my goal will no longer be based on doing squats on the Smith machine. I won't max out tomorrow so I won't do that much weight but I was repping 205-215 with Smith machine. I'll drop that down and see what's comfortable to rep with just the bar and I'll report back here to leg you guys know how I did.
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    Anyone want to buy a nice smith machine?
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    Ditch the smith please. Free weight squats will help you more than any machine. Everyone gets scared to do them but after you do you'll regret not having started sooner. When i watch people do smith squats it makes my knees hurt that motion just looks so un natural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bell View Post
    Steps for squatting on a Smith Machine

    1. Don't

    2. Repeat
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    a guy told me that the smith machine follows an unnatural path which is bad for squats. it's dangerous. it could lead to knee blowout

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Matrix View Post
    a guy told me that the smith machine follows an unnatural path which is bad for squats. it's dangerous. it could lead to knee blowout
    Exactly, and exercises with a very fixed path promote pattern overload.

    The body has a will of its own that needs to stay unleashed.

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    just to answer your actual question metal, and not flame the hell out of you for mentioning squatting with the smith machine. there isnt a numerical conversion. but most smith machines are set up so that the bar is weightless (ie: you got 2 plates on their.. thats 90 lbs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corey170 View Post
    just to answer your actual question metal, and not flame the hell out of you for mentioning squatting with the smith machine. there isnt a numerical conversion. but most smith machines are set up so that the bar is weightless (ie: you got 2 plates on their.. thats 90 lbs)
    Thanks that really what I wanted to know from my original post. So if I take the 275 I squatted and subtract the 45 that leaves me at maxing out at 230.


    I went to the gym today and used the squat rack. You guys were right I could barely do 110 lbs.

    Just kidding, other than what you guys mentioned of lack of stabilizing muscles I didn't notice a difference in weight I could lift. During my warm up set I was swaying a little but I soon gained my balance. I was able to do a workout of 1x8x135, 2x8x185, and 1x8x205, which is above what I was doing on the Smith. So I'm going to update my sig by subtracting the 45 lbs (the weightless bar) and consider that my current max.
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    random, it says your DL goal is < your current.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randommetalguy View Post
    Thanks that really what I wanted to know from my original post. So if I take the 275 I squatted and subtract the 45 that leaves me at maxing out at 230.


    I went to the gym today and used the squat rack. You guys were right I could barely do 110 lbs.

    Just kidding, other than what you guys mentioned of lack of stabilizing muscles I didn't notice a difference in weight I could lift. During my warm up set I was swaying a little but I soon gained my balance. I was able to do a workout of 1x8x135, 2x8x185, and 1x8x205, which is above what I was doing on the Smith. So I'm going to update my sig by subtracting the 45 lbs (the weightless bar) and consider that my current max.
    Nice work!

    Those were below parallel, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    Nice work!

    Those were below parallel, correct?
    Nah they were to parallel. Of course parallel for us is femur parallell. Looked like his head was gunna pop off too. So he definitely had a good workout.
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