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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    I'm not looking for huge guns. I'm not looking to be a beast. But I am looking to pack on a tiny bit of size and drop a little bodyfat to see that six-er for the summer while I'm at it. Though, come fall I will want some more size, and that is time to do it. So I've been going through routine type after routine type, and diet strategy after strategy.

    I've come to this:

    Active Metabolic Rate: 2502
    Calories Per Day: 2513
    Protein: 42%
    Carbs: 42%
    Fats: 16%

    This is without taking into consideration the 2 days of early morning high intensity cardio, and the thermogenic in Dymetadrine X-Treme. So each day I should be in caloric deficit, but only barely. Should I be able to put on muscle size (Moreso definition)... and drop the very last piece of the gut with this?
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    If you wanna lose fat and gain muscle, I would suggest upping your carbs and lowering your fat. A good diet for that is what I told beef_cake. 60/30/10. I read that it is important to have your Carbs twice as much as Protein. Just a suggestion.

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    Really. Where did you read this at?

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    what? if u wanna lose fat, u gotta up the fat and lower the carbs. believe it or not, carbs get u more fat than fat itself, and fat actually burns more calories than it contains; it takes a lot of energy (more than the caloric amt in the fat) to metabolize fat. so why r ppl getting fat from eating chips and fries? bc of carbs; carbs and fats usually come together, and the easily metabolized carbs assist the metabolism of fat. but if u can find a way to lower the carbs and up the fat, then u'll lose weight quickly.
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    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight here.

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    Kick ass. thanks for the replies.
    Last edited by Yaz; 04-04-2001 at 05:36 AM.

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    Originally posted by heathj
    If you wanna lose fat and gain muscle, I would suggest upping your carbs and lowering your fat. A good diet for that is what I told beef_cake. 60/30/10. I read that it is important to have your Carbs twice as much as Protein. Just a suggestion.
    I'd rethink that plan.

    Under 15% cals from fat and you are risking lowering T levels, as well as risking not getting all of your EFAs.

    There is no reason at all that carbs should be 2x protein intake.

    The most important factors are:
    Caloric defecit
    Adequate protein
    EFAs
    Manipulating carbs to control insulin

    In that order. If you don't get the first one, the rest don't matter.

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    Well, I was just stating that from the webpage...thought it might've been true.

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    posted by Podium Kreatin:
    "it takes a lot of energy (more than the caloric amt in the fat) to metabolize fat"

    This is simply not true. If it were true people could eat unlimited amounts of fat and not worry about getting fat. It would impossible to store dietary fat as body fat.

    In fact, carbohydrates and fat share a comon metabolic pathway. Also, It is much easier for your body to convert dietary fat to body fat than to convert carbs to fat. Roughly 25% of excess energy from carbs will be spent in the conversion of carbs to body fat while only 5% of excess energy from fat will be used to convert dietary fat to body fat.

    There is some truth to what you say. Dietary fat is important to lose weight. Excess carbs may cause fat storage when they displace fat from the fuel mix. the excess carbs spare dietary and body fat from oxidation.(excess carbs suppress fat oxidation)
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    Argh. That got me all twisted around.

    So you're saying, high protein... and level out the fat/carb intake?

    Possibly ...

    40 Pro
    30 Carb
    30 Fat

    ?

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    Originally posted by Yaz
    Argh. That got me all twisted around.
    What you should learn from this, is that there are many methods you can use to lose fat.
    Pick one is easy to follow and is comfortable.
    You can lose fat through raising your carb intake or by lowering it.
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    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    I'd like something that made me feel less bloated too. That would probably mean less carbs.

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