The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Lift heavy but not rep heavy?

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    My current 1RM is 225, 2RM is 215, and 3RM is 205. This was tested on my ME chest day which was monday. Today (Saturday), I did hypertrophy chest and found out that I can only do 185 3 times. Can anyone explain to me why I can do 205 3 times and 185 only 3 times?

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    I assume you're talking about bench. Did you try the 225, 215, and 185 consecutively?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzCatDRP View Post
    I assume you're talking about bench. Did you try the 225, 215, and 185 consecutively?
    No, one day I did 225 max then I did 215 twice. Another day I did 185 three times then 205 three times.

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    Did you warm up before attempting the 185? Maybe the 185 warmed you up?

    This is strange because there is a 20 lbs is a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasG View Post
    Did you warm up before attempting the 185? Maybe the 185 warmed you up?

    This is strange because there is a 20 lbs is a big difference.
    yes i warmed up before 3x185 but not before 3x205.

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    Quote Originally Posted by failed View Post
    yes i warmed up before 3x185 but not before 3x205.
    So you didn't do the 3x185 and the 3x205 consecutively?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasG View Post
    So you didn't do the 3x185 and the 3x205 consecutively?
    i did them on seperate days to make sure i wasnt tired

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    In that case, you probably warmed up too much on the day you did 185x3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by failed View Post
    yes i warmed up before 3x185 but not before 3x205.
    Probably warmed up too much, and did not rest long enough before 185. Maybe not mentally ready and not recovered from the sat. workout. Just some thoughts,,,, I wouldn't worry maybe just a bad day.
    Remember, to get big, you have to get strong. The two are interconnected. Lift heavy, work hard, and size will come. Like night follows day. It works. Arnold
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    You're probably benching too much. I know I sound like a broken record, but focus on your squats and deadlifts.

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    Hopefully its what I was thinking, pre-lift. Thats easily fixed.

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    Well, it also is probably how you are training too. I remember Fuzzy wrote that he struggled to squat 225 for 10, but is maxing out over 450 lbs oly style.

    My bigger question, why do flat barbell bench ME and then do it in the same week hypertrophy as well? Don't Westside style trainers(which it sounds like you are trying to do) use different exercises when they train in different ranges in a given week? Also, don't they cycle the exercises they ME on? ie week 1 Flat Barbell bench, Week 2 2 Board Press, Week 3 Close Grip, and week 4 Floor press, or something like that? Most don't even include a flat bench as an ME exercise for most of their training and focus on that during their DE days right? Also, isn't the ME day designed for one to reach a specific max(be it a 1 rep, 2 rep, 3 rep) and stop, because that is the MAXIMUM EFFORT for the day? How can one reach 3 maximum efforts in one day? Things for you to consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    Well, it also is probably how you are training too. I remember Fuzzy wrote that he struggled to squat 225 for 10, but is maxing out over 450 lbs oly style.

    My bigger question, why do flat barbell bench ME and then do it in the same week hypertrophy as well? Don't Westside style trainers(which it sounds like you are trying to do) use different exercises when they train in different ranges in a given week? Also, don't they cycle the exercises they ME on? ie week 1 Flat Barbell bench, Week 2 2 Board Press, Week 3 Close Grip, and week 4 Floor press, or something like that? Most don't even include a flat bench as an ME exercise for most of their training and focus on that during their DE days right? Also, isn't the ME day designed for one to reach a specific max(be it a 1 rep, 2 rep, 3 rep) and stop, because that is the MAXIMUM EFFORT for the day? How can one reach 3 maximum efforts in one day? Things for you to consider.
    im 15, board presses/floor presses dont help much.

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    so you ME bench each week?


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