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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    When to move on from Starting Strength routine

    Is there a point in Starting Strength where it becomes more beneficial to switch routines based on strength levels not plateaus? Clearly all of my lifts are going to plateau at different times, so how do I know when to switch? In 6 weeks I will be Deadlifting 315x3x5 and is it incorrect to assume that once I hit 3 plates that there is a more effective way to train deadlifting than the Starting Strength routine? However, at that same time, my bench will only be at 220, and I will clearly still benefit from the structure of the routine for a few more months at least. Any insight is much appreciated. I included my current lifts for this week and things are just now starting to get a little challenging:

    My current lifts are:
    Squat 215x3x5
    Dead 255x3x5
    Bench 190x3x5
    Military Press 110x3x5
    Power Clean 150x3x5

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    you can do things like play with set/rep schemes, movement selection and movement order every 6-8 weeks. stick to the basic form for a while, maybe for a long time. you can make good gains with the routine you have selected... just play with it a bit but don't fix it if it ain't broken.
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    No. Strength is NOT an absolute indicator of how advanced a trainee you are. Switching from a novice program to a more intermediate one would entail sacrificing gains every workout to gains once per week. Milk the novice program for as long as possible.

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    You should stick with starting strength for a significant period of time. Once you plateau on increasing the weight each week, you are supposed to deload, and start again from a lower weight, build back up to break through that original sticking point. Read up on this for more info.

    By the way, I thought the Starting strength routine had deadlifts at 1x5, not 3x5?
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    Thanks guys I will have to read up on the deload. I am hoping I still have a lot of gains before I plateau. I am hoping to hit the following before I hit my first plateau:

    Bench: 225
    Squat: 275
    Dead: 315
    Military: 135
    Clean: 185

    As for the deadlifts, its my favorite lift so I had to add in a couple extra sets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beno79 View Post
    You should stick with starting strength for a significant period of time. Once you plateau on increasing the weight each week, you are supposed to deload, and start again from a lower weight, build back up to break through that original sticking point. Read up on this for more info.

    By the way, I thought the Starting strength routine had deadlifts at 1x5, not 3x5?
    Yeah, you're right it is 1x5. Do you know why it's only 1 set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike42506 View Post
    Yeah, you're right it is 1x5. Do you know why it's only 1 set?
    This has been observed to be enough to disrupt homeostasis and drive adaptation. Any more than this is unnecessary and results in additional accumulated fatigue--earlier stalls.

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