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    I cannot run.

    I don't know why or what's wrong with me, but I can not run long distance. I did cross country and track for 3 years in high school, and my times never improved. At all. I just recently started crossfit and I realized I just cannot run. Today's workout was only a combined total of 1.25 miles and even the first 400 meters I was dying. Everyone says well just run more and you'll get better but I don't seem to be. I need suggestions, or maybe even some kind of diagnosis as to why running is such a problem for me.
    23 y/o, 170 lbs

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    that's kind of strange. what poops out first? legs, lungs, etc?
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    Lungs, always. My legs are actually quite strong after 3 years of lifting they can go pretty much all day.

    I should also say that those times that never improve are also quite slow. I used to do 3.1 miles in about 30-32 minutes. Used to do 1 mile in about 9-10 min.
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    Have you considered that you're just in bad shape?
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    Bench - 374lbs -- 170kg -- Dec 20, '08 (@100kg class)
    Dead - 589lbs -- 267.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Total: 1537lbs -- 697.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)
    Bench Only -- 358lbs -- 162.5kg -- Nov. 25, '07 (Provincial Record @ 90kg class)
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    Well like I said, I'm not in terrible shape. I've been lifting for 3 years. Which doesn't necessarily help cardiovascular, but I'm no couch potato.

    And also like I said, during my 3 year period with track and cross country I never got any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altephor View Post
    Well like I said, I'm not in terrible shape. I've been lifting for 3 years. Which doesn't necessarily help cardiovascular, but I'm no couch potato.

    And also like I said, during my 3 year period with track and cross country I never got any better.
    Were you training year-round? Being challenged by a competent coach? There are all sorts of reasons you could have made no progress... I highly doubt however, that you just simply can't run.
    Full Powerlifting
    Squat - 595lbs -- 270kg -- Dec. 31, '09 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Bench - 374lbs -- 170kg -- Dec 20, '08 (@100kg class)
    Dead - 589lbs -- 267.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Total: 1537lbs -- 697.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)
    Bench Only -- 358lbs -- 162.5kg -- Nov. 25, '07 (Provincial Record @ 90kg class)
    Bench Only -- 376lbs -- 171kg -- Jan. 26, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeder View Post
    Were you training year-round? Being challenged by a competent coach? There are all sorts of reasons you could have made no progress... I highly doubt however, that you just simply can't run.
    Yes, and yes. Like I said, when I run I literally feel like I cannot breathe. Even after just 400 meters I am gasping for air.
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    I feel like no matter how bad your coach/routine/whatever was, if should have improved SOMEHOW from day 1. You might have asthma or something, have you ever seen a doctor about this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazerboy View Post
    I feel like no matter how bad your coach/routine/whatever was, if should have improved SOMEHOW from day 1. You might have asthma or something, have you ever seen a doctor about this?
    No not specifically. I don't have any wheezing or whiny breath sounds when I run, it's just like I can't get enough air. Even the 400 meter runs I was doing for crossfit the other day, I felt dizzy and a little faint at the end of them.
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    Breathe through a straw for a few minutes. If that's what you feel like when you're running, then you could have asthma. That's about what it feels like... Not all the time obviously, but you could have exercise induced asthma...

    I've mostly grown out of it now. Allergies still bring it back a bit but nothing like I had when I was a kid.
    Full Powerlifting
    Squat - 595lbs -- 270kg -- Dec. 31, '09 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Bench - 374lbs -- 170kg -- Dec 20, '08 (@100kg class)
    Dead - 589lbs -- 267.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Total: 1537lbs -- 697.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)
    Bench Only -- 358lbs -- 162.5kg -- Nov. 25, '07 (Provincial Record @ 90kg class)
    Bench Only -- 376lbs -- 171kg -- Jan. 26, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)

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    I too had asthma when I was younger. Sometimes I'd play a 30 second shift in hockey that I might as well have been holding my breath for, and almost collapse when I got back to the players box.

    Get checked out.
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    What kind of doc would I go to, to get that checked out? My GP? Or would it be better to use an ENT or perhaps a physical therapist?
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    Probably go to your GP and let him/her decide what type of specialist (if any) needs to be seen.

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    I have a mild asthma case and what you describe sounds like the typical symptoms. I went to my family doctor and asked about it, I got an answer pretty quick I highly recomend you do the same.

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    very weird, but I had severe asthma and chronic bronchitis and trained myself to run marathons...

    weak mind?

    and im not kidding... seriously... maybe you are psyching yourself out

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    I'd say GP and ask for a referral to get a stress test or VO2 max test done.
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    Is it just running, or can you also not swim/bike/rollerblade/cross country ski etc.

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    Is there any particular reason that you want to run?

    I can't do it well either. So, I don't.

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    You could have exertional asthma; it is a form of asthma that only presents itself during an abnormal stressor to the cardiovascualr system i.e. running. I would discuss this with a health care provider and see if there is anything you can do. If this, is not your problem then I would suggest lifting with minimal down time between sets for a while in other words go straight to your next lift no wait. It is a great way to work on endurance while working on strength, and you may find that your cardiovascular health improves well enough to run if that is something that is improtant to you, but I would check on your health first.

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    I also have a caved sternum, also know as PE. Which I hear can affect cardiovascular endurance, but I wasn't sure how much.
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    I feel ya man. I ran track for 3 years in highscool and had the absolute worst endurance no the team every single year. I was long jumping 20 - 21' and had the fastest 200m dash, but I ran a mile in 10 - 12 minutes. I was known to puke almost every practice from exhaustion. I have no clue why but my endurance has never gotten any better. I realize I'm out of shape right now, but back when I ran track I was about 80 pounds lighter, no reason to be out of shape. Exactly like Altephor described, I never got any better as well, at least in the distance running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    I feel ya man. I ran track for 3 years in highscool and had the absolute worst endurance no the team every single year. I was long jumping 20 - 21' and had the fastest 200m dash, but I ran a mile in 10 - 12 minutes. I was known to puke almost every practice from exhaustion. I have no clue why but my endurance has never gotten any better. I realize I'm out of shape right now, but back when I ran track I was about 80 pounds lighter, no reason to be out of shape. Exactly like Altephor described, I never got any better as well, at least in the distance running.
    Yes, anything less than 400 m or so I can do no problem, after that I consider it long distance and I'm just dying from exhaustion.
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    asthma. take it from the people that have it/have experienced it. i have it. i can't usually sprint over 200 meters before i need my inhaler. just go to your normal doc, my normal doc diagnosed mine.
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    I really don't know if it's astma in a case like mine though. I've thought about it before, but never gone to the doctor and had it checked out. It's not like I have terrible problems breathing, I just get extremely exhausted. Sure breathing is a little rough when I'm gasping for air after running a lap but I'm not wheezing and stuff.
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    Push. Through. It. I had the same problems as a kid. Now I run without a problem. Set your mind up for it. Know that you'll run a lot.

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