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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  1. #1
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    Few Questions About Ripptoe's Routine.

    Workout 1
    Squat 3x5
    Bench Press 3x5
    Deadlift/ Power clean (Alternate every workout)
    This has you deadlifting or cleaning every 5th workout
    For the deadlift he said to pyrmaid to a top set of 5, and for power clean to do 5x3.

    Workout 2
    Squat 3x5
    Military press 3x5
    Hyperextensions 3x5
    Chins 3x5


    Ok so i used the search function for ripptoe's routine, and this is what i found. If i'm working out 5 - 6 days a week my routine should be as follows?:

    Monday: Workout 1
    Tuesday: Workout 2
    Wednesday: Workout 1
    Thursday: Workout 2
    Friday: Workout 1
    Saturday: Workout 2
    Sunday : Rest

    He also wants you to powerclean or deadlift - bench - squat all in one day? "This has you deadlifting or cleaning every 5th workout" How if your rotating?

    I just found this a bit confusing... if someone can clarify this, it would be so much easier, thanks everyone!
    Last edited by fooz; 04-25-2008 at 01:08 PM.
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    I've herd alot of people mentioning this routine, so i want to take it for a run.
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    You do the routine only three times a week. You'll never last doing it 5-6 days a week.

    The routine is actually:

    Day 1:
    Squat
    Military Press
    Power clean

    Day 2:
    Squat
    Bench
    Dead

    All done 3x5 (but don`t forget warm up sets). You can add dips on one day and chins on the other. Rows are an acceptable substitute for the cleans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge Sanchez View Post
    You do the routine only three times a week. You'll never last doing it 5-6 days a week.

    The routine is actually:

    Day 1:
    Squat
    Military Press
    Power clean

    Day 2:
    Squat
    Bench
    Dead

    All done 3x5 (but don`t forget warm up sets). You can add dips on one day and chins on the other. Rows are an acceptable substitute for the cleans.
    Are deads not 1x5?

    As Jorge said do the routine 3x per week.
    Last edited by Mik; 04-25-2008 at 01:21 PM.

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    Thanks Sanchez. Should I maintain a single weight per excercise and increase weekly?
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    Also Day 3 Would be?


    Squat
    Military Press
    Power clean
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    Bench: 315x2
    Dead: 420x4


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    Quote Originally Posted by fooz View Post
    Thanks Sanchez. Should I maintain a single weight per excercise and increase weekly?
    yes, it's the same weight across the working sets.
    Quote Originally Posted by fooz View Post
    Also Day 3 Would be?


    Squat
    Military Press
    Power clean
    Correct, day 3 = day 1. So it's actually a 2 week cycle:

    Week 1
    Monday - Workout 1
    Tuesday - Rest
    Wednesday - Workout 2
    Thursday - Rest
    Friday - Workout 1
    Saturday, Sunday - Rest

    Week 2
    Monday - Workout 2
    Tuesday - Rest
    Wednesday - Workout 1
    Thursday - Rest
    Friday - Workout 2
    Saturday, Sunday - Rest

    Week 3 - Repeat


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    can you do cardio on tuesday and thursday rest days?
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    Squat: 135 X 6 11/7/06 (bad back, just working on form)
    Deadlift: 400LBS 11/10/06

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    thanks a lot guys. let's see how it goes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTA1982 View Post
    can you do cardio on tuesday and thursday rest days?
    I guess, but i'm trying to put on some weight, so i won't be running much.
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    Bench: 315x2
    Dead: 420x4


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    Bench Press: 370LBS 11/13/06
    Squat: 135 X 6 11/7/06 (bad back, just working on form)
    Deadlift: 400LBS 11/10/06

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    that's some long reads, thanks i'll check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTA1982 View Post
    that's a great resource. I believe there's a PDF of it floating around somewhere too.

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    1. The deadlifts are only 1 set of 5 reps; they are very intensive on your body.

    2. Yes, you warmup to a workset weight, then use that weight across 3 sets (or 1 with deads). For example...

    45x5
    135x5
    185x5
    225x5

    250x5
    250x5
    250x5

    3. The shoulder work is just presses, not military presses. The difference is that the military presses have your feet touching each other and they are not as stable as presses. The presses that Rippetoe recommends have you standing with feet shoulder-width apart.

    4. I would recommend against cardio because if you are a novice and strength training you should take advantage of your gains and stop recovery from becoming a problem.

    If you want to use the "Rippetoe routine," you need to buy the book. Just doing the workout he suggests is not his training program. Seriously.

    Have fun
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