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    Deadlift hex bar...

    When I was first getting into lifting during my freshman and sophmore year our HS weight rooms had hex bars to make doing the dead lift a much easier lift. when I was 15 I was able to trap 460 with decent form....

    Today I trapped for the first time in forever i hit 225 a couple times with the stright bar and then i pretty much maxed out at 275 with pretty much terrible form. This stright bar sucks does anybody have expirence with the hex bars that will explain why its so much easier to do then with the stright bars... Is it even considered deadlifting or is it a completley different lift?
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    The only trap bar I have ever encountered had the handles raised several inches higher than a normal bar would be. I'm sure the mechanics of the movement are different as well.

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    i like deadlifting with the hex bar. less lower back stress. its ergonomically better IMO. dont worry about the flash of the straight bar. do what you body responds best to. i say that because even though i work out my deads with the hex bar, i can still pull heavy on a straight bar with good form when i want/need to max deadlift. therefore i dont give a crap if anyone cares that im not DL with the straight bar. hell no one even deadlifts at my YMCA, its a mirror muscle haven!
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    I've been meaning to order one of those for a few weeks, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I don't like DL'ing with a straight bar.

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    Sounds like we all share the same opinoin about the damn thing
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    It's not comparable to a deadlift with a straight bar at all. Why would you want to deadlift with something that takes the stress off your lower back? That's the whole point of a deadlift.

    It's more like a hack squat than a deadlift IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deeder View Post
    It's not comparable to a deadlift with a straight bar at all. Why would you want to deadlift with something that takes the stress off your lower back? That's the whole point of a deadlift.

    It's more like a hack squat than a deadlift IMO.
    I agree. It's not the same thing at all. It changes the center of gravity and basically shifts it from being a back lift to a leg lift. You won't get nearly as big a back by doing deads with a hex bar.
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    seriously... it's not a deadlift if it is not a straight bar. i agree with deeder and guido, it will be more like a hack squat.


    i don't think anyone "likes" to DL with a straight bar. but, in lifting, the easy road is almost never the best/most efficient way to train
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMonkey View Post
    seriously... it's not a deadlift if it is not a straight bar. i agree with deeder and guido, it will be more like a hack squat.


    i don't think anyone "likes" to DL with a straight bar. but, in lifting, the easy road is almost never the best/most efficient way to train
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevowamo View Post
    i like deadlifting with the hex bar. less lower back stress. its ergonomically better IMO. dont worry about the flash of the straight bar. do what you body responds best to. i say that because even though i work out my deads with the hex bar, i can still pull heavy on a straight bar with good form when i want/need to max deadlift. therefore i dont give a crap if anyone cares that im not DL with the straight bar. hell no one even deadlifts at my YMCA, its a mirror muscle haven!
    really? "flash of a straight bar"?

    i agree to do what your body responds best to, but then your logic supporting hex bar fails. in lifting it is usually the hardest movement that is most beneficial to the lifter. so rather than run away from DLing you should yearn for the stress it can give to your body.

    also, why train for DLing by not DLing? why even work to a 1rm on DL if that is not what you train doing? that is like saying "I like DB flies rather than bench. But I only bench for a 1rm."


    the point is: If it is hard to do... then do it. Your body will thank you with back growth, more bone density, and more strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deeder View Post
    I love to deadlift!
    yes, i love it to. but it is a pain in the ass. i get nervous on my DL days. i guess you could call it a love/hate relationship. I hate loving them. I love hating them. whatever.
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    I agree with the deeder and guido and zen. It is a completely different lift. Just because pulling with a straight bar is harder than with a hex bar, doesnt mean its not good for you... just means that your weak and you need to work on that. Overall strength comes from identifying your weaknesses.

    Also I believe that hex bar activates your quads more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deeder View Post
    I love to deadlift!
    It doesn't get much better!


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    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    It doesn't get much better!
    Started deadlifting recently. My new favorite lift along with Military Press.

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    Mechanically it resembles a squat much more than a deadlift. Poorly named, no doubt.

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    From what i understand though don't they use the hex bars in the olympics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattBag View Post
    From what i understand though don't they use the hex bars in the olympics?
    For what?

    If you're talking about olympic weightlifting, then the answer is no.

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    Hmm when I serched for hex bar, most of them said they were olympic standard? How can their be a standard for someing in the olympics if its not used? just wondering cause i have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattBag View Post
    Hmm when I serched for hex bar, most of them said they were olympic standard? How can their be a standard for someing in the olympics if its not used? just wondering cause i have no idea.
    It probably means it weighs 45 pounds. Doing a clean or snatch with a hex bar would be some crazy ****.

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    Olympic just means it takes OLY plates. OLY plates are used in the olympics.
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    It's much more like a hack squat than a deadlift. There's more quad activation and your back is not taxed nearly as much.
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    Hmm when I serched for hex bar, most of them said they were olympic standard?
    That means it's a 2" bar.

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    Ohh my bad well thats what the football coaches let us use to do our dead lifts for our 1 rep max. we also got to use a machine for our squat... I could barely do the bar and 7 months later when we got the squat machines i put up 420 like nothing for my one rep max... so im use to useing machines or differnt equipment to do different lifts then you guys. it doesn't mater i use the stright bar for deadlifting now and i'm starting to get use to the bar crushing my neck with squatting. No pain no gain...
    MAX BENCH:275lbs. (11/2008)
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    MAX DEAD LIFT hex bar: 465lbs. (1/2006)
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    CURRENT WEIGHT:240. (10/2009)
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    I believe that you may be wearing the bar too high on the back if it's crushing your neck during squats. It should be placed on the traps, not the back of the neck. Look for the "groove" between the trap and shoulder muscles, it fits comfortably there.
    You can use whatever bar you like for your workouts. Do what works for you. But it's like they said, it's not the same excercise-it's a variation. I've actually been thinking of trying them myself, but haven't had access to a shrug bar yet.
    I'm learning to love the shin shredding, though.
    And "straight" has an "a" in it. Sorry, had to do it.
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    yea "straight" does have an a in it doesn't it??? haha i dont pay to much attention to grammar since i was never very good at it, also half the stuff i post is posted on my mogul which has the worst qwert keyboard ever made.
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    MAX SQUAT free weight: 385lbsx2. (1/2009)
    MAX DEAD LIFT hex bar: 465lbs. (1/2006)
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    total: 1115
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