How often do you see some noob in the gym doing bench press only half way down, or someone swinging their entire body into a bicep curl?
I'm wondering if it's proper gym etiquette to approach the person and let them know about their mistakes? I always cringe when I see someone doing overhead press in the smith machine.
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I've learned to leave them alone. 95% don't care what you think. Waste of time.
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Totally depends on the situation. If someone comes to lift with our team(powerlifting) I always rip their form apart. If it's in a commercial gym I usually let it go. If someone asks me for a spot, I usually will give them some advice if their form is terrible.
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I take care of my training partners or people that come and ask for my 2 cents. Other than that, I just let it roll. I see it a TON. Its actually accountability to some extent. It keeps me focusing on my form and making sure I do things well.
I lift in a commercial gym and see horrible form all the time. Sometimes I see things that almost make me laugh out loud it is so bad, but I try to ignore it and focus on my own workout. I will occasionally have people ask me questions about squat or bench form because I am the only powerlifter in the gym and most of them have never seen anyone moving big weights (and I use the term "big weights" as a very relative term). When asked I give as much help as I can.
It absolutely is.
I must admit that I've occasionally blown people off if I like what I'm doing at the moment, but as a general statement I love to be confronted with advice (and I'm tiny, just to let you know). However, I've often thought about confronting the bigger guys I see around the gym every time I'm there, but it's just too intimidating. I swear I've gotten a second away from asking someone to critique my deadlift form about a billion times, but I never end up doing it. I would absolutely love it for someone to step in.
A while back this huge guy (that I had been admiring for months, of course) was maxing out at 315 on bench and he asked ME to spot him. Me, the skinny little bitch. Little things like that mean a lot to people. Just knowing that he trusted me with that kind of weight, it was like I had been accepted into some elite club that they have, or something.
I'd also like to say that I think you might be making it too hard on yourself. I think that the kids you see trying to Squat ATF and Deadlift will generally listen to your advice, while the ones Curling and Benching for hours might blow you off more often. I could be wrong, but I don't think that's a bad assumption
No one ever said that you would be properly rewarded for being nice, but I think someday you will. Even if it takes a hundred smirking idiots blowing you off to finally find the kid that listens, I think you'll find that it's worth it when you finally realize how much it means to that one kid.
I BEAT CURL JOCKEY
BP - 280 pause bench
SQ - 345 outdated
DL - 345 outdated
Clean and Jerk - 250
People sometimes ask me what I'm doing but they never ask for a form check, or to show them how to do it. I suppose I can help out the new kids at the gym that are constantly hassled by the curl jockeys. Honestly, there are only 2 workouts at my commercial gym, bicep curls and bench press.
Last edited by Szust; 06-17-2008 at 09:58 PM.
6'1" 250 lbs
1155 Total (raw)
If you do want to give them pointers I find its best to ask if they want to hear it first, like, "I watched your bench and noticed a few things, would you like to hear them?"
I try this with Sean, Reko and Will all the time. They never listen...
LOL, I typically leave them be unless I think they're going to hurt themselves or if they ask. The ones that ask are typically looking for the right way to do things and are obviously more receptive.
It depends if you have had any conversation with the person, but other wise they already know everything. They read flex. Normally those people ask me questions when they see me strap bands on the bar and I let them feel the diffference compaired to what they do.
I work out at my hospital gym (only medical students and hospital employees can use the facility) and normally I dont approach anyone unless I think that they might really hurt themselves. One time I watched this younger resident with 185lbs on a barbell squating and then jumping, I've seen other people do this and didnt think much of it but this guy was collapsing under the weight and nearly falling over each time if i didnt say anything he probably would've died.
My favorite so far:
"So what's the vest do?" In reference to a denim bench shirt.
I leave them alone also. But sometimes they will have comments. "try benching without those boards, its better for you!" Isn't that like a poor man telling me how to get rich?
I only provided unsolicited advice when people are goint to get hurt, or I know them well enough. Usuall it's rounded backs on deadlifts that get me....I feel some sort of civil duty to correct that. Plus I'm a weakling, so unless I can push/pull/move more weight on whatever exerise they're doing I'm not going to offer advice. Althought sometimes I'll phrase it as a question....
"Is there any reason you don't touch your chest when you bench?"
I dont try to help folks anymore, unless they ask.
If they ask, I dont mind.
I give advice sometimes if I am familiar with the person, and if I think they will be receptive to it. I once told a guy about leg drive in regards to benching (he had none), and he came back about a week later and told me that he improved his max bench by 20lbs. since then and that the leg drive tip really helped him.
Most of the time I get questions such as "dude, what are the boards for?" or "what do those bands do?" People are usually pretty curious about these types of things. Heck, I even get questions about box squatting. However, I find that these people are pretty receptive to at least trying to understand what I am trying to achieve once I explain it to them.
if i try to give advice (in my school weightroom) i just get viewed as 'oh he's so cocky and thinks he owns the place cuz he's stronger'... maybe when i go to a real gym i can give advice. not that i have very much to give though.
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I have been trying to change the atittude at my Y one person at a time. There are now at least 4 PL guys and a new trainer who just came from a D-1 football progam. I figure the more I get people doing some of the lifts I do the more likely the director is going to see a need to add more thing like chains, bands, and heavier DBs. I bug them regularly to bring some of those things. I did finally get my kettleball wish.
It was great fun torturing a guy a few weeks ago. He was doing 800 lbs on the leg press so I ask him why I never see him squat? He said he really did not know how and he was just comfortable on the machines for legs. Once I stopped laughing at his chicken legs I said he could join for my next leg workout. That was his mistake. We did about 6 sets of squats(he did 185), straight leg deads, step ups, and walking lunges. I saw him about 4 days later hobbling around. And he actually asked for more. Although he is a little talkie I did pick up a partner to train with.
i tell them if they are doing something wrong!! but dont understand why you
cringe when you see overhead work on the smith machine? i use it often
anyways i have made a ton of new freinds in my commercial gym by giving unrequested help
I always took advice when I first started. Two months into training just from listening to people, I went from not knowing anything to squatting and deadlifting and all the other compound moves we love.
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