I'm doing Rippetoe's Starting Strength right now, so if I ever can't get 3x5 of a weight, I will repeat the same weight next workout. Today I was benching and I got the 5 reps of the first set without much problem (probably could have got another rep). For the next set, my first spotter was busy so I ask some other dude to spot. After I unrack the weight, his hands immediately start hovering below the bar, so I specifically tell him not to touch the bar unless it starts to fall back on my chest. He goes ahead and touches the bar reps 4 and 5 anyways. I get a different spotter next set. Of course, he also goes and touches the bar on the 5th rep.
So I'm pretty sure I could have gotten 3x5 of the weight, but I technically didn't. Should I move up in weight next workout anyways?
DAMN I hate those people.
Beat him to within an inch of his life - bet he doesn't do it again!
Repeat the weight.
If you must have a spotter, then it's your responsibility to be very, very explicit in your instructions on how and when to spot, how much to help, when to rack it, etc. If you can't find a competent spotter or an incompetent spotter that can follow explicit instruction, then you better get used to doing a lot of work in the power rack or lifting a little less close to failure.
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Most people can't seem to follow simple instructions. I just tell people I don't know not to help me until I verbally ask for it.
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The people I talk to listen very well. All I say is "Please, don't touch the bar unless I get pinned or I tell you to". It seems to always work.
you gotta make sure they understand how you want to be spotted. most times guys think spot means they row it up to help you get the lift. i usually say, can you just stand behind, i can probably get 5, but just in case i don't, i'll let you know
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my instructions are always, "stand back and don't touch it unless I call for it"
works 90% of the time.
i always teach people how to spot me and how I LIKE to be spotted before ever letting them touch the weight. Until they get it right, they'll screw you over everytime. Always inform someone how to spot because they might have learned differently.. i've had alot of weight damn near dropped on my face a few times. Now I hold a mini seminar before I ask someone to spot. LOL
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I agree,you cant just say "Hey,can you give me a spot?".You gotta be specific about what you want them to do.Ive trained my wife to give a perfect spot.Yet the old men at my gym who have been at it for years will take one arm and grab it in the middle of the bar while Im on my first rep.A real spotter isnt gonna let you "struggle".If the weight aint movin,theres no point in someone inching you up.That will cause injury and do nothing for strength.
I yell mid repetition if they try to touch the bar.
lol, there's a video on here somewhere of me hitting a 405x3 and on the 3rd rep I slowed way down. My spotter went to grab the bar and you can hear me yell "DONT TOUCH IT".
What Im saying is any spotter that sits there and watches you come to a halt and "inches" you a little at a time isnt doing you a favor.The ego boost of saying you got it on your own isnt worth the injury it may cause.In bodybuilding,Ive noticed the need for some guys to rather struggle for 2 minutes with a weight as long as they get it on their own.But ask any powerlifter,or watch any bench video of a powerlifting attempt and theres about a 2 second time frame a spotter will let you struggle.The goal is to remain healthy so you can continue lifting and competing.Ive been injured because of a bad spotter.A.C joint,forearm,elbow.If that weight isnt constantly moving in an upward motion,than that spotter isnt doing his job.And if you aint movin it in an upward motion,your not ready for the weight.
There is one other, horrible option that I use:
Leave off the collar on one side of the bar, so when you reach failure you can tilt the bar and dump the weight on that side.
Of course, get ready for lots of loud noise and the heavy side of the bar to flip away and crash into things, but it does work.
I figured this one out after getting stuck beneath my bar and had yell for about 10 minutes until my wife finally came into the garage. Then I had to wait while she unloaded it one plate at a time.....
Of course, you're at a gym, so maybe it's not an option.
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On a side note to hijack the thread for a second, Tennessee Mike, you are new to the board and I gotta say I have liked everyone of your posts I have read so far. Welcome aboard!
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Just get under the bar!
I'm not lifting to failure any more, so I don't have to do that. I'm older and being more conservative with my work-outs. The goal, after all, is to improve, not set any records.
I'm looking at buying a power rack, it's just not in my budget at this time.
"This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."
When benching alone collars should never be used. Collaring one side only is just silly.
When spotting, I ask how they want me to spot. When having a spotter help, I tell them and frequently yell at them not to touch the bar. BUT, Option 1 works for me, too - beat him within an inch of his life.
Give chalk a chance.
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