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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Deadlift training video 7/15/08

    Please somebody take a look at my 545 attempt and tell me what I need to do to fix my lockout. I have an upper back weakness that leaves me rounded forward on my top lifts, even when it seems I could get heavier weights moving off the floor up to the knees. Any suggestions for movements or maybe even hand placement to fix this? It is very frustrating.


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    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
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    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
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    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    I am new to all this, but the suit helps alot at the bottom as you are pulling sumo?? Am I right?? (gives alot more pop than a conv. lifter)
    And your issue seems to be the top part where the suit no longer gives anything to you??
    Why not do some rack pulls, pulls of block and that sort of stuff to bring your finishing strength up to the strength you have and the pop of the suit at the bottom.
    For a lighter bloke even your un locked 545 is still a great lift.

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    i didn't see too much wrong with that pull Chris...i don't think upper back rounding is too bad of a thing unless it starts rounding a ton throughout the pull. i know you do plenty of pulls of blocks, and different pulling styles and what not. maybe try some heavy dumbbell rows to strengthen the rhomboids, band pull aparts and things like that.

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    I'm gonna agree with lones here. That didn't really look unlocked to me. I think it was just a little slow which made it feel unlocked. Seemed a little slow in the hips maybe? Could there be a weakness there? I'm not sure, hard to tell


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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Thanks for the suggestions guys. I just want to bump this back up so maybe a few more guys can take a look. Hopefully CT will give me a few movements since he has been telling me to bring up my upper back strength for the past few years.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    thats sick dude... keep it up.. looks good to me
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    Leaning barbell shrugs,

    Ok you bend forward at around a 45 degree angle from upright. (It would be best to do this leaning against a incline bench) Use a double overhand grip and straps.. Now do not do these with momentum but squeeze them up and backwards hold at top for 3 seconds. Start with 135 x 10 and add 20 lbs a set till form suffers then back off till you can do them correctly. Also I would do bent over db retractions, Setup like yur gonna do a db row but instead of bending the elbow keep them straight let your arm hang downward then squeeze yur shoulder blade up and pinch it together with the other one. 5 sets of ten slow do not use momentum or its worthless. Last do bent over db flys with overhand grip swing them out pinch the blades hold a sec then lower the db slowly. 4-5 sets 10. You can do all the above exercises 2 times a week especially on the day you do back where you will hit rows as well and in 5-6 weeks your upper back will be jacked. Dude fill in yur upper back and yu will be pulling 600+

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    Thanks buddy. I'm gonna try that stuff out starting this Saturday.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    I agree with CT - filling out the upper back will make a big difference. Having said that, at least from the angle on the vid, it looks locked out to me - i've seen people with the same or worse shoulder position lean way back from the hips at the top and get whites (eg Kutcher), but it's not technically necessary.

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    Thanks for the advice CT... I'm going to start doing those exercises, too... The top part kills me on my pulls as well.
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    chris ur plenty strong but get ur head up at the start...pull all the slack out of the bar then be fast...the best sumo Iv ever seen is the ukraine dude thats a 275......

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    Chris, have you tried heavy training with bands? I have a pair of thick green bands, I can't remember their name (about 2" wide). I will pull with them attached to the bar. They really kick in the last few inches of the movement where you are having trouble. I would suggest you include them once every 3rd ME day and I bet your lockout will improve significantly.


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    Chris ...bands really help alot for the lockout but cr just needs to fix his form and he will pull 6

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    What do you think is wrong with his form? Looked pretty good from where I'm sittin but maybe I missed something


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