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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    those farmers were pretty crazy.

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    nice...especially the farmers

    wish my driveway was that long i cant do farmers at my house but one of my lifting buddies has a huge driveway like that.
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    Your friend at the end of the vid says it all, haha.

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    Form looks scary on those. Almost more like GMs rather than squats. Why do you not squat in the rack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cphafner View Post
    Form looks scary on those. Almost more like GMs rather than squats. Why do you not squat in the rack?
    I agree. The squat form looks awful. While you drive with your legs to move your hips upward, your chest should be coming up at the same pace- your hips shouldn't be moving up first, forcing your upper body to catch up. You're placing ridiculous and unnecessary stress on your lower back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoko013 View Post
    those farmers were pretty crazy.
    thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by weasel View Post
    nice...especially the farmers

    wish my driveway was that long i cant do farmers at my house but one of my lifting buddies has a huge driveway like that.
    its my mothers house, im only 16 and am not a home-owner
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    Your friend at the end of the vid says it all, haha.
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    Form looks scary on those. Almost more like GMs rather than squats. Why do you not squat in the rack?
    1. I know i cant help it though
    2.when i put my squat briefs on, my feet are too wide.
    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike View Post
    I agree. The squat form looks awful. While you drive with your legs to move your hips upward, your chest should be coming up at the same pace- your hips shouldn't be moving up first, forcing your upper body to catch up. You're placing ridiculous and unnecessary stress on your lower back.
    i know my back is wayyy stronger then my legs, i have to work on some form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongkid963 View Post
    thanks.
    1. I know i cant help it though
    Yes you can. Reduce the weight until you can handle it properly.

    i know my back is wayyy stronger then my legs, i have to work on some form.
    It seems to me that if your back was strong enough, you'd be able to maintain proper form. Reduce the weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike View Post
    Yes you can. Reduce the weight until you can handle it properly.

    It seems to me that if your back was strong enough, you'd be able to maintain proper form. Reduce the weight.
    1. I dont usually go heavier then 250 raw cuz i go into briefs were i can go out wider and dont bend over.

    2.no its more flexibilty issuse but like i said dont usually go heavier raw due to this very issue and i am not going to compete raw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongkid963 View Post
    1. I dont usually go heavier then 250 raw cuz i go into briefs were i can go out wider and dont bend over.

    2.no its more flexibilty issuse but like i said dont usually go heavier raw due to this very issue and i am not going to compete raw.
    This is still a problem you need to correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markdk86 View Post
    This is still a problem you need to correct.
    I don't want to come off wrong, but why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongkid963 View Post
    1. I dont usually go heavier then 250 raw cuz i go into briefs were i can go out wider and dont bend over.

    2.no its more flexibilty issuse but like i said dont usually go heavier raw due to this very issue and i am not going to compete raw.
    Can you go with perfect form with 135 instead of 250? If you can, it's not a flexibility issue. Your suit doesn't add flexibility. You are simply using too much weight, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strongkid963 View Post
    I don't want to come off wrong, but why?
    Because by squatting with ****ty form you put yourself at much higher risk of injury. Why do you think form is so highly emphasized in weightlifting? Quality > quantity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike View Post
    Because by squatting with ****ty form you put yourself at much higher risk of injury. Why do you think form is so highly emphasized in weightlifting? Quality > quantity.
    Exactly. The video and the form you are using simply shows you are using too much weight. To me you look like you are leaning too far forward when squatting. You are 16, you have plenty of time to correct this problem and surpass the weights you are trying to squat now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike View Post
    Because by squatting with ****ty form you put yourself at much higher risk of injury. Why do you think form is so highly emphasized in weightlifting? Quality > quantity.
    i dont have bad form in briefs, maybe ill cut out all raw work

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    yeah bro, believe it or not, your back and core mainly is the weakness


    ur hips are flying way up to fast and ur back and core cant keep ur upper body at the pace, plus id correct this, adding a suit will not help this problem it will only make it worse


    for your sake and health, work on form and get ur core stronger before going higher weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by strongkid963 View Post
    i dont have bad form in briefs, maybe ill cut out all raw work
    Because the briefs are helping you to alleviate some of that weight and therefore have better form. Think about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongkid963 View Post
    i dont have bad form in briefs, maybe ill cut out all raw work
    Maybe instead of running away from the problem you should address it. Learn to squat raw with proper form. Reduce the weight and work your way up to that 250 with proper form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike View Post
    Your suit doesn't add flexibility.
    i know, i am not an idiot. when my feet are wider(equipped) i dont bend over much at all, esp. when i squat in monolift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike View Post
    Maybe instead of running away from the problem you should address it. Learn to squat raw with proper form. Reduce the weight and work your way up to that 250 with proper form.
    why waste my time i am never doing a raw comp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markdk86 View Post
    Because the briefs are helping you to alleviate some of that weight and therefore have better form. Think about it...
    not when you add 250lbs to your raw max

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    I used to squat 315 for a few reps with HORRIBLE form, given some months later with proper form I gained up to 405x2, just fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markdk86 View Post
    I used to squat 315 for a few reps with HORRIBLE form, given some months later with proper form I gained up to 405x2, just fix the problem.
    i am not in it for a huge raw squat, i can have perfect form raw, but the next day i have sciatic type pain form an injury last august

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongkid963 View Post
    i know, i am not an idiot.
    Then don't defend bad form.

    when my feet are wider(equipped) i dont bend over much at all, esp. when i squat in monolift.
    Then do your raw squatting also wider and do it RAW. Learn to do it right before you start using assistance toys. Look at it this way: by not developing the proper technique and core/back strength you are more likely to be injured than competing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiloMike View Post

    Then do your raw squatting also wider and do it RAW. Learn to do it right before you start using assistance toys. Look at it this way: by not developing the proper technique and core/back strength you are more likely to be injured than competing.
    i get glute pain

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