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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    A Different Lifting Split Theory- Help Needed

    This is not just another routine thread. I need YOUR help. I am interested in talking about how to make this work and maybe making an interesting split that could gain benefit from two very different worlds of lifting.

    So, I'm bored here with some broken fingers. I like to think and like to lift and since I can't lift I am thinking about lifting. I was reading around on various boards and got to thinking about conjugate periodization, like one does, and was wondering how to incorporate that with Oly movements. How do these samples look? I would really like to create a sweet split philosophy... so please, humor an injured lustful lifter!

    Possible Movement Inclusions:

    -Vertical Push
    -Vertical Pull
    -Horizontal Push OR ME/DE Bench
    -Horizontal Pull
    -ME/DE Squat
    -ME/DE DL (could switch these week to week)
    -Hamstring Supporting Movement
    -Quad Supporting Movement
    -CnJ + 1 Variation
    -Snatch + 1 Variation

    It seems possible to mix these and although I have not done it yet it looks like it might work well for those who not only want good looking numbers (that is if they respond to conjugate methods) but also the athletes and those looking for that CNS speed and full body muscle team work.

    This^ evolves into these templates:

    ME Squat
    DE DL
    Pulling Movement

    Clean & Jerk
    ME DL
    DE Bench
    Hamstring Movement

    Clean Variation
    ME Bench
    DE Squat
    Snatch Variation


    Snatch Variation
    ME Squat
    Hamstring Movement
    DE Bench Press

    ME Bench Press
    DE DL
    Quad Movement

    Clean Variation
    ME DL
    Vertical Pulling
    Tricep or Horizontal Pushing Movement

    Clean and Jerk
    DE Squat
    OH Pushing Movement
    Horizontal Pulling Movement

    Here is a sample split I am looking into for myself using the above template. It is a little more complex than the above 3 day template but looks solid to me.

    Snatch- 5x5-1
    ME/ RE Squat- 5x5-1
    ** If ME Squat then Breathing Squats
    Row- 5x5
    Flat Press- 5x5

    Power Clean- 5x3
    Snatch High Pull- 5x5
    RE/ ME Deadlift- 5x5-1
    ** If ME DL then DE Squat
    Push Press v Overhead Press 5x5

    Clean and Jerk- 5x5-1
    Front v Overhead Squat- 5x5
    Stiff Legged Deadlift- 5x5
    Kipping Pull-ups 3x Failure v Weighted Pull-ups- 5x5

    What do you guys think?

    edit: this is also in the oly/pl forums too.
    Last edited by ZenMonkey; 08-11-2008 at 08:50 AM.

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    Zen, I think the best responses to your thread here are gonna be the ones you get over in the PL section.

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    yea, there is one there too... haha

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