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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Difference between Military Press and Overhead press?

    I do the military press in my routine and just found out about overhead presses, what is the difference in muscles worked between military press and overhead presses? Which one is better in your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by projectpete19 View Post
    I do the military press in my routine and just found out about overhead presses, what is the difference in muscles worked between military press and overhead presses? Which one is better in your opinion?
    from what i have heard military press requires your feet to be together and pretty much no leg drive.

    not sure about an overhead press though

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank View Post
    from what i have heard military press requires your feet to be together and pretty much no leg drive.

    not sure about an overhead press though
    right. Millitary is with heels together, overhead press is without. Neither should use leg drive (that would be a push press), but they can use hip drive.

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    Is there a difference in nomenclature if at the start your elbows point forward or flare out (sideways)? I usually keep them forward, since I can lift more weight that way, but I sometimes start with them at the side since that puts more emphasis on the lateral head of the deltoids (as opposed to the anterior one).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepStich View Post
    Is there a difference in nomenclature if at the start your elbows point forward or flare out (sideways)?
    forward = good form, sideways = bad form
    Last edited by RedSpikeyThing; 08-25-2008 at 11:19 AM.

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    i didnt know you had to keep your heels together for the military press, it doesnt ever say that anywhere, not even in the link gable provided, i guess i have been doing them wrong. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by projectpete19 View Post
    i didnt know you had to keep your heels together for the military press, it doesnt ever say that anywhere, not even in the link gable provided, i guess i have been doing them wrong. thanks
    Lol, no, you've just been doing overhead press. :P

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    dude dont do military press because it messes up your back and the spine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by must_eat View Post
    dude dont do military press because it messes up your back and the spine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by must_eat View Post
    dude dont do military press because it messes up your back and the spine.
    just like squats and deads, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by must_eat View Post
    dude dont do military press because it messes up your back and the spine.
    Just stop posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berfles View Post
    Just stop posting.
    lmao - that was just mean. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by must_eat View Post
    dude dont do military press because it messes up your back and the spine.
    Go swim. Because that gets you big, too, right?
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    swim, eat, run, lift weights and sleep and that's all I do bro and I'm big. So no worries bro.

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    You still haven't explained THIS:

    Quote Originally Posted by must_eat View Post
    dude dont do military press because it messes up your back and the spine.

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    as of now, im not flexible enough to keep my elbows out in front when doing overhead press, so i keep them flared. Is this potential cause for injury? and is it harder to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roots View Post
    as of now, im not flexible enough to keep my elbows out in front when doing overhead press, so i keep them flared. Is this potential cause for injury? and is it harder to do?
    You need your elbows in front of the bar because that is where your forearms provide the proper skeletal support. If your elbows are behind the bar there is going to be a lever arm created and give the bar a tendency to fall away from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roots View Post
    as of now, im not flexible enough to keep my elbows out in front when doing overhead press, so i keep them flared. Is this potential cause for injury? and is it harder to do?
    they should be under the bar but don't have to be up like in a clean.

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    Military is with heels/feet together, proper pressing form is with elbows forward.
    Overhead is with heels/feet about shoulder width apart, proper pressing form is with elbows forward.
    Push press is getting the bounce from the legs, typically used with the feet apart.

    BTW - if you hurt your back doing sohp's, then you 1) used bad form; 2) used too much weight; 3) already had a weak back; or, 4) all of the above.
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    Do they all hit the same muscles? Anterior delts? What about the push press?

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    You bench 185, squat 135 and curl 25 lbs and you're big? Right.
    Age: 24 Height: 5'9" Weight: 185

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    im big for my height, im five two, so quit hating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by must_eat View Post
    im big for my height, im five two, so quit hating.
    my 5 foot 2 13 year old brother can squat 135.

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    Quote Originally Posted by must_eat View Post
    im big for my height, im five two, so quit hating.
    I don't give a **** if you're 5'2". Does that hinder your squat, bench or "curl"? I'm hating on your inaccurate advice, not you. So stop sharing it.


    Quote Originally Posted by AJ_H View Post
    You still haven't explained THIS:
    He won't because he can't.
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