I'm sure this has been covered before but I coudln't find the thread....
I currently do parallel squats and I'm thinking of changing to ATF but I'm a little worried about the stress on my knees when my ass is to the floor..
Is it okay on my knees as long as I "drive my ass up" as rippetoe puts it? What should I watch out for?
Actually parallel puts more pressure on your knees. Go down as low as you comfortably can.
I think the only problem with ATF is that some people don't have the flexibility to go down so low and as a result, form is worsened. I myself have found my back rounds when squatting ATF but when squatting parallel it is fine. However this was a while back and I don't think this applies to everyone. Go as low as it is safe for your form.
As for knees, there is no problem, parallel or ATF so long as you don't squat any shallower than parallel. It is in this ROM that the most pressure is applied to those joints.
This I completely don't agree with, at least for me. I've had a knee injury ( not from squatting though ) and I don't feel any issues with my knee until I go lower than parallel. Squatting to anything parallel or higher doesn't bother my previously injured knee whatsoever, but below that, forget it, knee pain. I don't buy the whole argument that when your knee is at 90 you're most prone for injury. For me my knee feels significantly more able to be (re)injured once I go below parallel.As for knees, there is no problem, parallel or ATF so long as you don't squat any shallower than parallel. It is in this ROM that the most pressure is applied to those joints.
Last edited by BigTallOx; 08-29-2008 at 04:59 AM.
If you read the book you would understand why exactly full squatting is much easier on the knees then only going to parallel.
Barring injury or just old knees (like mine), going parallel or below is always better and typically, easier on the knees. Many people have a tendency to relax the muscle (pause) at the bottom. This will shift the pressure from the muscles to the knees and could cause pain. Make sure your knees come up pointing in the same direction as your feet are pointed, otherwise, a slight twist of the knee happens and there could be some problems later if that bad form is kept up. Your feet should be pointed outward at a comfortable position.
Give chalk a chance.
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so as long as I don't pause and let my muscles relax at all when in full squat, my knees should be fine?
yes, take a deep breath and stay tight through out the movement.
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So as not to start another squats/knees topic, let me ask you this.
I find that on the ascent of the squat my feet tend to flare further outwards than my starting position. I think it's because I'm trying to explode upwards too quickly, and I'm working on making it a smoother ascent.
But last time out I put a 25 pound plate on the outside of each of my feet to keep them from doing this. Is this a good idea? It worked quite well actually, but my knees have been a little more clicky (not that unusual) and a little more sore after this, but it may just be that I squated 200+ for the first time ever.
Blah blah, bad for the knees?