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    Are you using a suicide benching grip???

    This video shows why NOT to use the suicide grip method when bench pressing... remember to always wrap your thumbs around the bar when benching.

    This video proves that

    Caution: The video is alittle disturbing


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSJCDcAKShA&NR=1
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    Suicide grip is fine so long as you're careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Suicide grip is fine so long as you're careful.
    The problem with that is that, before the weight fell, the guy in the video probably would have said that he *was* being careful.

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    I do when I do close grip bench presses. Although I understand the rationale for it, any other use is crazy IMO.

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    it also says use a weight you can handle..hehe.
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    I've always used suicide grip for bench and overhead press. Never had a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyPitbull View Post
    I've always used suicide grip for bench and overhead press. Never had a problem.

    I had never been into the grip before recently and usually advise people against it. I started messing with it a few months ago(now that I am older and wiser, lol) and have actually been feeling much better with my raw bench as of late. I absolutely won't use it when I have my bench shirt on and I also don't use it for board presses. I just use it on my full range raw bench and OH press. You do have to be very careful and if you are going heavy you have to have to get a good liftoff. If you have some idiot who rips you off the bench and just dumps the bar on you, things could get ugly quick.
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    I never did, thought it's a bit dangerous. Rippetoe advises against it.
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    Wrapping thumb around the bar is just extremely uncomfortable for me. I've tried it many times thinking my wrists just needed to toughen up. Unfortunately, I ended up with wrists tendinitis which took some time to recover from. I know suicide grip can be pretty dangerous, and I know Mark Rippetoe is against it. But it's something I've been using for a long time now so I actually feel very safe with it (I do all of my pushing stuff with suicide grip, including heavy board presses). There is less pressure on the wrists, it is easier to keep my elbows in, so it allows me to push harder.

    I haven't got a chance to train in a bench shirt, but if I was... then I'll probably go with normal grip.
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    is there any benefit from using suicide grip?? ive never used it and i don't think id like to cause it looks very dangerous, im just curious??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyPitbull View Post
    Wrapping thumb around the bar is just extremely uncomfortable for me. I've tried it many times thinking my wrists just needed to toughen up. Unfortunately, I ended up with wrists tendinitis which took some time to recover from. I know suicide grip can be pretty dangerous, and I know Mark Rippetoe is against it. But it's something I've been using for a long time now so I actually feel very safe with it (I do all of my pushing stuff with suicide grip, including heavy board presses). There is less pressure on the wrists, it is easier to keep my elbows in, so it allows me to push harder.

    I haven't got a chance to train in a bench shirt, but if I was... then I'll probably go with normal grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pottsy07 View Post
    is there any benefit from using suicide grip?? ive never used it and i don't think id like to cause it looks very dangerous, im just curious??
    I think it keeps the bar lower in the hands, more over the elbows, and therefor allows a greater transfer of power from the elbows through the wrist. I think thats why. Like I said above, i use it only on close grip stuff because I touch so much lower and can't get my thumbs around at that low of a touch, but I still let the bar sit back in my hands regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pottsy07 View Post
    is there any benefit from using suicide grip?? ive never used it and i don't think id like to cause it looks very dangerous, im just curious??
    It puts yourself in a better position to push. Some people can bench more with suicide grip (like myself), and some may not. Personally, I don't think it is the grip itself but the kid and the spotter in the video just being completely careless. He was begging for trouble readjusting his grip and unracking the bar very soon after that (not even 1, 2, 3... up! or something). It takes me at least 10 seconds to have a firm grip and setup everything properly, even for warm ups.
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    Don't tell that to vincent:

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    I think his equipped bench is around 800 lbs. He lifts with a suicide grip all the way

    though all in all your right - cite the rule, not the exception :-p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazerboy View Post
    Don't tell that to vincent:

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    I think his equipped bench is around 800 lbs. He lifts with a suicide grip all the way

    though all in all your right - cite the rule, not the exception :-p
    He's just sort of always lifted with a suicide grip. He tried to change it after tearing his bicep but didn't like it so he went back to what suited him best. But, even he recommends against it. SO it's wise to go with a regular grip but if not then you just need to be extra careful.

    Oh and his best bench in competition is 800 on the nose.

    EDIT: Ok after actually watching the video: DON'T BE STUPID. Thats pretty much a perfect example of how not to set up to bench. He was way too loose taking a weight that was apparently way too heavy for him. Plus, having side spotters is generally a good idea.
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    I very rarely bench, maybe one every two months, nothing heavy, so I use a suicide grip.
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    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

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    its called a false grip and i occasionaly use it with lighter weights, but when i go heavy i wrap my thumbs round the bar
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    It's cause the spotter was a dumbass in that video... before the guy was even situated he quickly let go... not to say it was entirely his fault but it looked like he was at fault some.

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    The guy in the video is clearly an idiot. His set up was terrible and the weight was too heavy. Aside from him rushing into it, it doesn't even look like he was concentrating. I'll always use suicide grip.
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    I will never use a suicide grip. It only takes a small lapse in concentration/judgement and I'm dead or horribly injured.
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