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    I'm with everybody else. Your form looks good. The only thing I see that might be causing the back issue is the exaggerated hyperextention of the lower back at the top. As a powerlifter you wouldn't want to take it that far anyway because when you do it makes you break at the knee and you lose the lift with the judges if they look close. For your purposes it may be that you're doing it intentionally for the max contraction of the lower back, but it could be what is causing the back pain. If it doesn't interfere with your goal for the lift, try stopping it at your upright standing position. Just a shot in the dark at stopping the back issue. Good luck with your goal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermonster View Post
    I'm with everybody else. Your form looks good. The only thing I see that might be causing the back issue is the exaggerated hyperextention of the lower back at the top. As a powerlifter you wouldn't want to take it that far anyway because when you do it makes you break at the knee and you lose the lift with the judges if they look close. For your purposes it may be that you're doing it intentionally for the max contraction of the lower back, but it could be what is causing the back pain. If it doesn't interfere with your goal for the lift, try stopping it at your upright standing position. Just a shot in the dark at stopping the back issue. Good luck with your goal!
    No that is a valid point. My last workout parter tried to get me to stop. Someone suggested the same thing in my journal. I'll try to keep that in mind next time. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rodgers View Post
    Looks good CP. You definitely have plenty of strength left. Does this program have you pulling once every week?
    Each rotation takes two weeks, so I will do bent leg deads every two weeks. I am also doing SLDL's, so I will be doing one deadlift variation each week.
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    Hey man, u have great form. However, there is one comment or piece of adivce I would like to give you that has helped me get the most out of the deadlift. As I watched your videos, it reminds me of one mistake I use to make. When I began repping 375ish raw (no belt, straps etc.), I began to get serious lower back irratation. I researched the deadlift form, like I always do every couple months, and also had an expierenced body builder watch my deadlift. There was one part of the lift I was doing wrong. It was this: when you begin the deadlift, you should always be trying to look at the celing the whole entire time. This prevents your lower back from rounding. Since you use a lower back support belt, you have been oblivious to your lower back rounding untill you reached very heavy weight. The rule is in all powerlifts is this: the heavier you lift, the more perfect your form has to be. Back supports can only do so much. As you lift heavier, you must reanalyze your technique. I compliment your courage for posting videos on here and asking for honest opinions. However, the solution to your problem is this: you must look at the ceiling instead of looking straight foraward at the wall. This will causes less tension to be placed on your lower back. This will result in less injuries to your lower back and will reward you with personal record breaking deadlifts. I have also personally repped 405x 6 reps and have a max on deadlift of 470 lbs. raw...not many people do these lifts raw unless their on steriods (then they get these "personal injuries" which they try to make look natural...but their full of **** bc myself and many of my drug free friends who lift have never had any weight lifting injures...if a person who is as strong as **** gets an injury, thers a 75% chance there on steriods...think brian urlacher...natural genetic mutant who never took roids and has had 2 minor injures in his nfl career). My weight...185 lbs 6'1.5" (keep in mind that taller people have harder time deadliftin, squatin & benchin). Take my advice b/c I have been in your shoes bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush126 View Post
    Hey man, u have great form. However, there is one comment or piece of adivce I would like to give you that has helped me get the most out of the deadlift. As I watched your videos, it reminds me of one mistake I use to make. When I began repping 375ish raw (no belt, straps etc.), I began to get serious lower back irratation. I researched the deadlift form, like I always do every couple months, and also had an expierenced body builder watch my deadlift. There was one part of the lift I was doing wrong. It was this: when you begin the deadlift, you should always be trying to look at the celing the whole entire time. This prevents your lower back from rounding. Since you use a lower back support belt, you have been oblivious to your lower back rounding untill you reached very heavy weight. The rule is in all powerlifts is this: the heavier you lift, the more perfect your form has to be. Back supports can only do so much. As you lift heavier, you must reanalyze your technique. I compliment your courage for posting videos on here and asking for honest opinions. However, the solution to your problem is this: you must look at the ceiling instead of looking straight foraward at the wall. This will causes less tension to be placed on your lower back. This will result in less injuries to your lower back and will reward you with personal record breaking deadlifts. I have also personally repped 405x 6 reps and have a max on deadlift of 470 lbs. raw...not many people do these lifts raw unless their on steriods (then they get these "personal injuries" which they try to make look natural...but their full of **** bc myself and many of my drug free friends who lift have never had any weight lifting injures...if a person who is as strong as **** gets an injury, thers a 75% chance there on steriods...think brian urlacher...natural genetic mutant who never took roids and has had 2 minor injures in his nfl career). My weight...185 lbs 6'1.5" (keep in mind that taller people have harder time deadliftin, squatin & benchin). Take my advice b/c I have been in your shoes bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Moore View Post
    This is epic...
    LOL i agree....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush126 View Post
    Hey man, u have great form. However, there is one comment or piece of adivce I would like to give you that has helped me get the most out of the deadlift. As I watched your videos, it reminds me of one mistake I use to make. When I began repping 375ish raw (no belt, straps etc.), I began to get serious lower back irratation. I researched the deadlift form, like I always do every couple months, and also had an expierenced body builder watch my deadlift. There was one part of the lift I was doing wrong. It was this: when you begin the deadlift, you should always be trying to look at the celing the whole entire time. This prevents your lower back from rounding. Since you use a lower back support belt, you have been oblivious to your lower back rounding untill you reached very heavy weight. The rule is in all powerlifts is this: the heavier you lift, the more perfect your form has to be. Back supports can only do so much. As you lift heavier, you must reanalyze your technique. I compliment your courage for posting videos on here and asking for honest opinions. However, the solution to your problem is this: you must look at the ceiling instead of looking straight foraward at the wall. This will causes less tension to be placed on your lower back. This will result in less injuries to your lower back and will reward you with personal record breaking deadlifts. I have also personally repped 405x 6 reps and have a max on deadlift of 470 lbs. raw...not many people do these lifts raw unless their on steriods (then they get these "personal injuries" which they try to make look natural...but their full of **** bc myself and many of my drug free friends who lift have never had any weight lifting injures...if a person who is as strong as **** gets an injury, thers a 75% chance there on steriods...think brian urlacher...natural genetic mutant who never took roids and has had 2 minor injures in his nfl career). My weight...185 lbs 6'1.5" (keep in mind that taller people have harder time deadliftin, squatin & benchin). Take my advice b/c I have been in your shoes bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Moore View Post
    This is epic...
    Epic fail for sure Ben.


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    He probably got all that info on the internetz, so it's gotta be true!

    Does that mean that I am on the sauce? I better get checked out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush126 View Post
    Hey man, u have great form. However, there is one comment or piece of adivce I would like to give you that has helped me get the most out of the deadlift. As I watched your videos, it reminds me of one mistake I use to make. When I began repping 375ish raw (no belt, straps etc.), I began to get serious lower back irratation. I researched the deadlift form, like I always do every couple months, and also had an expierenced body builder watch my deadlift. There was one part of the lift I was doing wrong. It was this: when you begin the deadlift, you should always be trying to look at the celing the whole entire time. This prevents your lower back from rounding. Since you use a lower back support belt, you have been oblivious to your lower back rounding untill you reached very heavy weight. The rule is in all powerlifts is this: the heavier you lift, the more perfect your form has to be. Back supports can only do so much. As you lift heavier, you must reanalyze your technique. I compliment your courage for posting videos on here and asking for honest opinions. However, the solution to your problem is this: you must look at the ceiling instead of looking straight foraward at the wall. This will causes less tension to be placed on your lower back. This will result in less injuries to your lower back and will reward you with personal record breaking deadlifts. I have also personally repped 405x 6 reps and have a max on deadlift of 470 lbs. raw...not many people do these lifts raw unless their on steriods (then they get these "personal injuries" which they try to make look natural...but their full of **** bc myself and many of my drug free friends who lift have never had any weight lifting injures...if a person who is as strong as **** gets an injury, thers a 75% chance there on steriods...think brian urlacher...natural genetic mutant who never took roids and has had 2 minor injures in his nfl career). My weight...185 lbs 6'1.5" (keep in mind that taller people have harder time deadliftin, squatin & benchin). Take my advice b/c I have been in your shoes bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush126 View Post
    Hey man, u have great form. However, there is one comment or piece of adivce I would like to give you that has helped me get the most out of the deadlift. As I watched your videos, it reminds me of one mistake I use to make. When I began repping 375ish raw (no belt, straps etc.), I began to get serious lower back irratation. I researched the deadlift form, like I always do every couple months, and also had an expierenced body builder watch my deadlift. There was one part of the lift I was doing wrong. It was this: when you begin the deadlift, you should always be trying to look at the celing the whole entire time. This prevents your lower back from rounding. Since you use a lower back support belt, you have been oblivious to your lower back rounding untill you reached very heavy weight. The rule is in all powerlifts is this: the heavier you lift, the more perfect your form has to be. Back supports can only do so much. As you lift heavier, you must reanalyze your technique. I compliment your courage for posting videos on here and asking for honest opinions. However, the solution to your problem is this: you must look at the ceiling instead of looking straight foraward at the wall. This will causes less tension to be placed on your lower back. This will result in less injuries to your lower back and will reward you with personal record breaking deadlifts. I have also personally repped 405x 6 reps and have a max on deadlift of 470 lbs. raw...not many people do these lifts raw unless their on steriods (then they get these "personal injuries" which they try to make look natural...but their full of **** bc myself and many of my drug free friends who lift have never had any weight lifting injures...if a person who is as strong as **** gets an injury, thers a 75% chance there on steriods...think brian urlacher...natural genetic mutant who never took roids and has had 2 minor injures in his nfl career). My weight...185 lbs 6'1.5" (keep in mind that taller people have harder time deadliftin, squatin & benchin). Take my advice b/c I have been in your shoes bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cphafner View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge Sanchez View Post
    I think this is possibly the all-time best response on WBB.
    Agreed..hahahahahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge Sanchez View Post
    I think this is possibly the all-time best response on WBB.
    I was just going to post the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rodgers View Post
    I was just going to post the same thing.

    I was almost in tears I was laughing so hard when I posted this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cphafner View Post
    I was almost in tears I was laughing so hard when I posted this.
    That was an epic reply. Nice job.

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    Back on topic. Here is a new session bit heavier. 355*6. I tried to not over extend at the top like some posters pointed out. I felt like I had a bit of upper back rounding on the last couple. I do have DB rows in this current w/o cycle to help with upper back strength. Keep the good tips coming! Sorry on the delay at the start of the vid. Damn ipod got in the way.

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    Ok, did we need the crotch shot at the end?


    Still looks easy. You weren't rounding, don't worry about it.
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    How does the lower back feel today CP?


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    I haven't put any gear on yet so I can't say for sure that my lower back is "better". Normally my lower back starts to get "weird" from squatting in full gear.

    But I have heard that tight hip flexers can pull on your lower back and aggravate it. I have been stretching twice a week, groin, hip flexers, ham strings, etc... And things seem much better for me.

    Also, I see on the way down your lowering the weight in a somewhat controlled manner. Someone that just started training with us was lowering the weight in an even more controlled manner than you. He was advised to go with the bar, but just kinda let it fall. But maybe that has to do more with expending energy, but I am pretty sure it was also mentioned that it can put extra stress on the lower back.

    But I have been training for like 4 days, so post the Billy Madison video for me now.
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    Chris - Don't act like your not impressed. Haha...I didn't even notice that shot. Thanks for the words.

    Joey - It's ok. My hips are more sore than anything.

    Benny - I would agree with what you said. I focus on ham, glute, and hip stretching/foam rolling atleast 3 times a week. Makes a big difference on the lower back.
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    That looked really easy CP. Go up to 4 plates next workout and rip it up.


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