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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    sore

    Our schools powerlifting club works out 4x a week mon-thur. They have us on a full body routine each day. Im sore every day i workout out after mon and its starting to effect my lifts. my coaches say that just cause im sore doesnt mean my lifts should be effected. could i be over training?

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    full body routine 4 times a week? Are you sure you joined the powerlifting club?

    that doesn't sound like a real good routine.


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    Yea its the powerlifting club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bell View Post
    full body routine 4 times a week? Are you sure you joined the powerlifting club?

    that doesn't sound like a real good routine.
    i agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonesXedge View Post
    i agree.
    Me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cougar23 View Post
    Yea its the powerlifting club
    LOL I was joking. Sorry. It wasn't intended as an insult.

    Yes you certainly could be overtraining, but being sore isn't typically one of the signs. Can you post your split for us?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cougar23 View Post
    Our schools powerlifting club works out 4x a week mon-thur. They have us on a full body routine each day. Im sore every day i workout out after mon and its starting to effect my lifts. my coaches say that just cause im sore doesnt mean my lifts should be effected. could i be over training?
    Overtraining is more complex than being "sore all the time."

    When did you start this 4x/wk training? A new program can cause a lot of soreness initially. You have to adapt to the new lifts, the volume, the frequency, etc., and then the pain goes away.

    How's your eating and sleeping habits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Bell View Post
    LOL I was joking. Sorry. It wasn't intended as an insult.

    Yes you certainly could be overtraining, but being sore isn't typically one of the signs. Can you post your split for us?
    oh i know i was trying to be sarcastic.

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    I started a month ago and get about 8 hours of sleep a night and eat plenty of meats and high protien foods.
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    Yeah, to be honest, I don't know that I've ever heard of any successful powerlifting squatting, benching and deadlifting 4 times a week. if your lifts are going down, I'd say that you may be overtrained but even more important than that, the program isn't working if you're getting weaker.

    Not to insult your coach or anything, but thats a really ridiculous program


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    Couldnt agree more im most likely going to quit the club and work out on my own. I was using defrancos westside really liked it and it helped a ton
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    I don't see any way your body could effectively recover from hitting every bodypart 4 days in a row. I'm with Travis on this one. Ridiculous is a good way to discribe it.
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    Is it really a "powerlifting" club or is it more a beginner's barbell training club?? That would make a big difference in what's "good" or "bad" about the program.

    ...although bench, squat, and dead 4x/wk is a bit crazy.

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    Cougar,

    WOW,never saw a program like that before.Who is in charge of this? Is it a coach,our some kids that started the program?

    You can get a much better program from one of the powerlifters/trainers on this site.

    You have the rest,diet good,but your training way too much.Most,but not all PL's train their core lifts once a week,and add asst. exercises 1-2 days a week.

    Best of luck,

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    Thanks guys. I was pretty sure that workout was over kill. my football coaches are running the program. Ill ditch the club and go back to defrancos westside for skinny bastards. I really like that and saw some good gains from it before this season.

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    Youll be posting higher #s more than your overtrained buddies. That split is loco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Hale View Post
    Cougar,

    WOW,never saw a program like that before.Who is in charge of this? Is it a coach,our some kids that started the program?

    You can get a much better program from one of the powerlifters/trainers on this site.

    You have the rest,diet good,but your training way too much.Most,but not all PL's train their core lifts once a week,and add asst. exercises 1-2 days a week.

    Best of luck,

    Ryan Hale
    Just a reminder that there are other ways to train other than Westside. I use a Sheiko style program and I squat 3-4 times a week, deadlift 1-2 a week and bench 3-4. Not saying that one is better than the other, but you can be successful working out 4 days in a row. Certainly not full body workouts, so maybe you can work out with your team and just focus on splitting the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoffsherman View Post
    Just a reminder that there are other ways to train other than Westside. I use a Sheiko style program and I squat 3-4 times a week, deadlift 1-2 a week and bench 3-4. Not saying that one is better than the other, but you can be successful working out 4 days in a row. Certainly not full body workouts, so maybe you can work out with your team and just focus on splitting the day.
    sure, Sheiko, Westside, just about any other program is going to yield him better results than what hes doing.

    Bill star's 5 x 5 would give him better results than what hes doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonesXedge View Post
    Bill star's 5 x 5 would give him better results than what hes doing.
    This is a good program. Did this for about 9 months before I got into WSB style training.
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