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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #1
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    Hmm can I drop 7%BF without cardio ?

    I have cardio. I truly do. I was wondering with proper diet and workout, is it possible to drop like 7-10%BF (from 22%) without doing any cardio but staying active ? (I go to the gym to workout, play basketball and tennis).

    Also, considering HIIT cardio, wouldn't basketball be the same thing? After all it's a combination of sprinting and jogging.

    Let me know on your opinions. Thx

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    Yes.
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    I'd guess yes... diet is going to play a big role.

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    yes, diet and resistance train.

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    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    Maki can you please provide me with some insight on how you acheived that ? Thanks.

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    Isn't the best way to lose bodyfat a ckd diet? I dont think you are supposed to do cardio on a ckd. it is better not to if you want to retain muscle.
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    Can easily be done with diet.
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    Originally posted by Maki Riddington
    Yes. I did it.
    *** As most will agree, it came through clean and constant eating habits. I also used a ECA stack as well.
    It was hard but I did it.
    My carbs wre at 150 grams
    Protein at 300 grams
    fat at 65 grams

    The ratios changed as I progressed.
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    "Soli Deo Gloria"
    "Test all things; hold fast what is good.": 1 Thessalonians 5:21

    "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
    Romans 7:14-25

    "Judo is not about strength. Yet in the learning curve, all Judokas get strong. Only with time do you learn where to apply that strength."
    The Art of Judo

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    No way

    Come one! You cannot be serious! 7%?! You want to lose 7% bf w/o cardio?! And do it all through dieting? Good luck, buddy!

    Seriously though, you cannot possibly lose 7% bf on diet alone in any measurable amount of time. That would literally take you a full year if you tried to do it without cardio! I'm serious! There is no way that a human being can lose 7% bf w/o cardio within 1 year unless they are 400 pounds of lard to begin with or are taking some gear!

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    Brahms- 7% bodyfat for me would be 15 and a half pounds of fat. That's not a huge amount of weight!

    It's very possible to do. Cardio does not do anything for fat loss that dieting and lifting cannot do.
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    Get hooked on cocaine or heroin for about a month. It should bring your weight down quite a bit.

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    Originally posted by Lettuce Face
    Get hooked on cocaine or heroin for about a month. It should bring your weight down quite a bit.
    Hmm i've looked into that but the negatives far outnumber the positives. =(

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    Re: No way

    Originally posted by Brahms
    Come one! You cannot be serious! 7%?! You want to lose 7% bf w/o cardio?! And do it all through dieting? Good luck, buddy!

    Seriously though, you cannot possibly lose 7% bf on diet alone in any measurable amount of time. That would literally take you a full year if you tried to do it without cardio! I'm serious! There is no way that a human being can lose 7% bf w/o cardio within 1 year unless they are 400 pounds of lard to begin with or are taking some gear!
    Of course you can do it without cardio.
    Squats work better than supplements.
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    You can probably do it without cardio, but a little cardio probably wouldn't hurt, esp if it's involves some activity that you *like* to do, like basketball. If you hate cardio like running or gym cardio, then it doesn't make sense to try to do something that you won't enjoy and will probably resent.

    Belial and I have had this argument, but I can say from my own perspective, that I have a very hard time losing fat without doing cardio, but some of that is probably due to female hormones. You'll probably just have to experiment and see a) what your body responds to, and b) what you can live with/work into your lifestyle.

    Good luck

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