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    Lower chest is firm but upper-mid is squishy...

    Here's a diagram I created

    When I tense up, the red section feels big and firm while the blue section is still "squishy" and small. Because of that, my chest has a little concave appearance



    How can I get those upper-mid chest?

    Any help will be greatly appreciated

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Dent; 11-23-2008 at 11:25 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dent View Post
    Here's a diagram I created

    When I tense up, the red section feels big and firm while the blue section is still "squishy" and small. Because of that, my chest has a little concave appearance



    How can I get those upper-mid chest?

    Any help will be greatly appreciated

    Thanks!
    not to sound like an *******, but at 135 pounds muscular development is minimal. first, there is no way to isolate those sections of the chest from one another. the chest contracts as one unit. to solve your predicament gain 30 pounds while eating healthily on a proven lifting routine. see if that doesn't build muscle in that region of chest.
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    Until you are approaching 200lbs I would not worry about lagging muscle groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidior View Post
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    Until you are approaching 200lbs I would not worry about lagging muscle groups.
    at 5'9" and 135lbs your BMI is 19.9, which is really just borderline underweight (18.5). I realize that BMI is not a truly accurate portrayal of body type.. but the error usually resides in the upper side (I'd imagine a number of the stronger/better built fellas on this board have obese BMIs and still relatively low BF %s).

    You list yourself as lean and defined, I have little doubt that it's true because you don't seem to have much to your body at all. I'm sure your BF is low, but I doubt you have a whole lotta muscle built up there either.

    Just hit the kitchen and the gym, your chest will come.

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    I'm just the opposite, in fact. My lower (Below the nipple) is the squishiest part, while everything above is rock solid. I attribute some of it to gyno (I believe it's genetically like this, as I've never played with HGH or other gear)

    I'd suggest incline and flat bench. If you don't see some results within a few weeks of doing incline, like the others said, gain some weight.

    My incline wasn't that strong, but last week I put up 225 x10 on incline. I weigh 266 so to me that's not a whole lot. But I'll be damned if my upper pecs don't want to explode after my last incline set....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidior View Post
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    Until you are approaching 200lbs I would not worry about lagging muscle groups.
    x2 at 135 , eat and lift.
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    yes the lower chest is obviously going to be bigger than the upper part because there are more muscle fibre. Get the whole chest bigger rather than worrying about the little nothings and it should all fill out.
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    Alright, it seems like I need to gain some weight first. I read that incline dumbell flies and presses are good for upper chest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dent View Post
    Alright, it seems like I need to gain some weight first. I read that incline dumbell flies and presses are good for upper chest
    I wouldn't even worry about dumbbell flies or cable crossovers, etc... Like the others said, Do some research on your diet and what you need to eat to gain mass and stick to compound lifts until you gain about 40-50lbs. Don't just focus on chest. Build your entire body with a solid program.

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    incline bench/flat bench.. keep doing them!!!
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    Well since theres no such thing as an "upper chest" - its probably not your routine. The visible part of the chest is the pectoralis major. One muscle. Focus on getting your entire chest big despite what you read online or in muscle mags. In order to get your overall chest bigger, you must increase your body weight. Without an increased body weight, you will never know for sure what your "weak points" are. There are tons of useful threads on WBB on how to gain weight. Search around and see and if you run into trouble, make a new thread so we can tell you to just eat more :P
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    Gain weight, worry about this minor stuff later.

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    gain 40-50 lbs!? I used a BMI calculator and that's overweight for a 5' 9" person!

    Ideally, I should be at 145 lbs for 5' 9"

    http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
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    Seriously?! Someone believes in the BMI system?


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    Don't go by BMI. The only thing it takes into account is height and weight. Use body fat percentage instead.

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    yes, BMI is not an accurate representation and doesn't give you enough information to guage progress or regress.

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    once you started working out BMI became useless

    it's more accurately used as a scale for sedentary individuals....go by body fat % instead


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dent View Post
    gain 40-50 lbs!? I used a BMI calculator and that's overweight for a 5' 9" person!

    Ideally, I should be at 145 lbs for 5' 9"

    http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
    You've gotta be kidding me.

    Though I am happy to report that I am now considered "over weight" by that useless piece of trash system. I'll be "obese" by 209
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    Ok, I'll forget about that BMI deal

    It's really hard for me to gain weight because I have a fast metabolism...

    Will eating junk food like McDonalds just to gain weight be alright? Is it better than nothing because I'm a college student and pretty lazy...haha
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    It's really hard for me to gain weight because I have a fast metabolism...
    And how much exactly are you eating right now? My guess is less than 3500 calories.

    If you can't eat enough real food, make shakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dent View Post
    Ok, I'll forget about that BMI deal

    It's really hard for me to gain weight because I have a fast metabolism...

    Will eating junk food like McDonalds just to gain weight be alright? Is it better than nothing because I'm a college student and pretty lazy...haha
    Eat everything all the time. Especially McDonalds. A large shake is 1000 calories, FYI.
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    To work your upper chest do incline bench and incline db bench. For the inner part of your chest do flat bench db flies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gymnmc27 View Post
    To work your upper chest do incline bench and incline db bench. For the inner part of your chest do flat bench db flies.
    Where did you learn this bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidior View Post
    Where did you learn this bro?
    From personal experience, been lifting for almost 9 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dent View Post
    Ok, I'll forget about that BMI deal

    It's really hard for me to gain weight because I have a fast metabolism...

    Will eating junk food like McDonalds just to gain weight be alright? Is it better than nothing because I'm a college student and pretty lazy...haha
    It will work, but you still don't want to be eating all junk. You still need to worry about getting all your nutrients and making sure your carbs/protein/fat breakdown is good. You really may have to buy some sort of mass gainer supplement (or make your own) and make shakes. Sometimes you just can't fit that extra 1500 calorie meal in. If you make it in a shake, it's easy.

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