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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Wannabebig Member scotusch's Avatar
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    Question about knee pain and knee wraps

    Hello,

    I suffer from patellofemoral pain (http://familydoctor.org/online/famdo...uries/479.html) in both my knees if I do any appreciable amount of squatting. Performing some physical therapy exercises that strengthen the muscles around my knees, in addition to icing and taking ibuprofen, goes along way in combating the pain.

    That said, I really want to keep squatting three days a week, and the pain is starting to get more serious than it has been in the past.

    Is there any benefit to purchasing knee wraps and wearing them when I am lifting?

    Thanks.
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    Have you tried TKE's?


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    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    Have you tried TKE's?
    I haven't tried them. Would you recommend them? If so, I have seen them performed with a resistance band while standing, and also by just extending the knee while laying down.

    Is there a preferred way to do them?
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    Anyone have any experience with braces and/or straps as a solution, or improvement, to this type of knee pain?
    Last edited by scotusch; 12-17-2008 at 05:51 PM.
    Height: 6'
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    Dead: 426, Squat: 335, Bench: 225 / Total: 986
    Goals
    Dead: 495, Squat: 405, Bench: 275 / Total: 1175
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    Quote Originally Posted by scotusch View Post
    I haven't tried them. Would you recommend them? If so, I have seen them performed with a resistance band while standing, and also by just extending the knee while laying down.

    Is there a preferred way to do them?
    I have done them standing with a resistance band. Using wraps with knee pain already sounds like a bad idea to me. I would listen to Small's post as well.


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    There have been a number of studies done using braces, neoprene sleeve's etc, none of them showing any real posative results from what I remember seeing. Most of the benefits from sleeves or taping that come up in any type of knee pain usually come simplty from increaed proprioception and a certain awareness of your knee.

    Your PF pain is there for a reason though. Did your PT go over potential causes or diagnose any other hip weakness/tightness issues. This is something that you should hopefully be able to get rid of for good. Most people can. But you gotta take the initial time to get rid of the inflammation and treat the source. It is usually either hip abductor weakness or lateral structure/retinaculum/IT band tightness. Essentially it's your patella not moving in the groove correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalls View Post
    There have been a number of studies done using braces, neoprene sleeve's etc, none of them showing any real posative results from what I remember seeing. Most of the benefits from sleeves or taping that come up in any type of knee pain usually come simplty from increaed proprioception and a certain awareness of your knee.

    Your PF pain is there for a reason though. Did your PT go over potential causes or diagnose any other hip weakness/tightness issues. This is something that you should hopefully be able to get rid of for good. Most people can. But you gotta take the initial time to get rid of the inflammation and treat the source. It is usually either hip abductor weakness or lateral structure/retinaculum/IT band tightness. Essentially it's your patella not moving in the groove correctly.
    Thanks for your response!

    I think I need to setup a few more PT appointments and make sure I am really addressing any issues that I may have.

    I have completely stopped squatting for about 2 weeks now, although I still have noticeable pain. I am hoping that this subsides in a few weeks.
    Height: 6'
    Weight: 195

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    Dead: 426, Squat: 335, Bench: 225 / Total: 986
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    Dead: 495, Squat: 405, Bench: 275 / Total: 1175
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    Try to find a specialist in the area. There are "knee" guys and "shoulder" guys etc. Try to ask people in the industry if they can recommend someone who has a lot of time dealing with this specifically and it will help immensely. Any good outpatient ortho PT should be able to help but getting someone who see's this a lot is your best best.
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    "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."
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    "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
    Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
    alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
    Calvin Coolidge (1872-1933)
    30th U.S. President

    "If you want to look abnormal you have to eat abnormal,lol."--ST

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