K umm wheres ur traps? And also WHY CANT I DO A FREAKING CHIN UP!!!(palms facing me)! Ive been lifting since umm... December and i can curl 80 pounds about for my max (Streight bar 45 lbs.) Now ive heard so many things.... First im telling u they work my biceps alot! And i feel my stomach (which has fat on it) I feel it get really tight. I heard that if u can curl half ur body weight u can do chinups. But i dont belive that because my Weak friend can do like 10 of them and he weighs a 150 lbs. Now i know he can't curl 75 pounds... So what can i do to be able to do chinups? It would be so kewl to be able to do them. What kind of reps does everyone do with them and do u use weights? How many sets? Is there a way to train like i dunno using a chair or something....Suggestions please!