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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    (football) whats for me?

    hey im Tommy. im 14 and currently in middle school. next year im gonna be a freshman in highschool and i want to go out for the freshman's football team. im not really that smart when it comes to football and i dont know what postion i should be going out for. i like the idea of outside linebacker or sumthing but i dont know what kind of person plays what kind of postion. i like defence though cuz i play alot with friends from my neighborhood. here are my stats currently:

    height 5'9"

    weight 140

    max bench 130

    max squat i dont really know becuase i've never maxed on a squat before but i can do 135 6-10 times

    40 time 5.5

    however there is still 6 months before tryouts and im gonna really hit the gym and these are my goals:

    height probibly same-ish

    weight 160

    max bench 160

    max squat 200 at least

    40 time 4.9-5 flat

    what kind of postions fits that?

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    If you want to be a linebacker one of the most important things is that you can tackle. 5,9" is pretty tall. You should continue in the weight room with good technique.Is there a coach or another member of your hs team that can help you in the weight room? you need to be on a weight lifting routine of some kind. Try talking to your highschools coaches about that and see what routine they have the team on.

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    well they have lifting sessions for the month before tryouts but i dont know how to contact the coaches before that cuz i dont go to the highschool so idk about that.. and as for the asking of the other team mates honestly i dont know if they know that much about it so i dont know what to do on that part. i could be wrong though its just our middle school wasn't really that "big" when it came down to sheer muscle

    is 5'9" to big for outside linebacker?

    what kind of regiment should i be on to get more agile and stronger and faster? i think im a really good tackler cuz the guys i play with always complain about my hits lol

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    no 5'9" iant to tall but i am a freshman and im only 5'7". Here is the routine our team has


    Mon-
    bench
    squat
    misc aux lifts
    abs

    Tue-
    deadlift
    powerclean
    misc aux
    plyometrics

    Wed-
    box squat
    towel bench
    misc. aux
    abs

    Thur
    plyometrics
    misc aux

    misc. aux. stuff would consist of a few exercises like lat pull downs, skull crushers, curls, and leg press with reps of 10-12

    plyometrics like line jumps,squat jumps, and lunges.
    on plyometric days do these before your workout.

    you should really find some one with some experience to train with you it helps to have someone spot you and watch your form.
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    Where are you lifting? If you're lifting at the school, there should be someone to help you out. If not, it shouldn't be too hard to get ahold of the coaches. 8th grade is still pretty young and a great time to hammer your form and build a good base for the future. It would be very beneficial if you had someone with experience to work with.

    As for position, it's going to depend more on your skill set than your stats, especially since you've never played on a team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike G View Post
    Where are you lifting? If you're lifting at the school, there should be someone to help you out. If not, it shouldn't be too hard to get ahold of the coaches. 8th grade is still pretty young and a great time to hammer your form and build a good base for the future. It would be very beneficial if you had someone with experience to work with.

    As for position, it's going to depend more on your skill set than your stats, especially since you've never played on a team.
    i lift at the local YMCA's weight room the middle school's weight room is faculty only. but how do i practice form? that doesnt seem like something you can do just at your house

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    Keep lifting and keep eating. And keep running. Do those 3 wisely, and you'll be fit for any position you want when you come to tryouts. It's not like there's going to be Tom Brady's trying out for the JV football team. You're going to be a freshman and if your stats are better than all the other freshmen, you're already standing out from the crowd.

    But the number one thing you can have is drive. Go out there and drive YOURSELF. Don't just try to "show" the coaches your good, PROVE to them that you've got the drive to BE good. Because trust me, you won't be anything close to any varsity players as a freshman. It's all about devotion and drive.

    Good luck.

    OH, and I would recommend squatting and deadlifting more, not just benching. Build up a thick body to prevent injuries. Run interval sprints, or HIIT to build up speed.
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    do you have any equipment at home? you can practice form every time you pick up the weight.Your form is how you control the weight/bar. how fast or slow you move it and your body posture during the lift is your form.If any of this is done incorrectly you can hurt yourself. If you had someone with experience at the ymca to show you the proper form and technique for the lifts that i posted above that would help you out alot.

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    oh lol i thought you ment form tackling but no i only have 10 pound dumbels

    thank you all for the help thus far
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    The most important thing is listen to your coaches and live in the weight room and EAT. While you are a middle schooler, you still have a great amount to grow, and at 5'9" you should grow more, hopefully signifigantly...

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    I just finished my Freshman season November first. 5 foot 9 in Freshman football is pretty tall, yet you are skinny and don't have good maxes. I will say however, keep working at it, because you've got a good 7 months until the season really comes. In that time you can get a lot of weight, and up your maxes dramatically. I'm about 5 foot 8, 165 pounds, and I played safety. However, I'm a hard hitter and I've always been since I was little. Before you start aiming at a position, just get as strong as you possibly can. When the season winds around you'll really see what you want to be. You might be a good linebacker in your neighborhood, but with pads on it's a whole different story. It's all about containing, dropping back in zones, crashing, and blitzes. It may be a little for you to handle and as a beginner freshman you might want to first consider defensive end.
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    I love the 14 year old giving sage advice on the game...classic

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillNoble View Post
    I love the 14 year old giving sage advice on the game...classic
    not sure whether to take this as a compliment, or a smart ass remark? If it's the first however, then thanks.
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    more the 2nd than the 1st, you are a hair on your dick 2 years and fancy yourself a football coach?

    Trust me on this one, at your age and experience your coaches know a helluva lot more about this game than you do, as I told the OP. Listen to your coaches, eat, train, and do what they tell you. You are taking the first steps on a long road in the game of football. Hell, your not even done growing yet.

    LISTEN AND DO WHATEVER YOUR COACHES TELL YOU

    Do not second guess them, just do it. When you get a little older, sure you can begin to dabble in other things, but at 14 years old, under 6' and under 200lbs. I can assure you, that you know nothing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillNoble View Post
    more the 2nd than the 1st, you are a hair on your dick 2 years and fancy yourself a football coach?

    Trust me on this one, at your age and experience your coaches know a helluva lot more about this game than you do, as I told the OP. Listen to your coaches, eat, train, and do what they tell you. You are taking the first steps on a long road in the game of football. Hell, your not even done growing yet.

    LISTEN AND DO WHATEVER YOUR COACHES TELL YOU

    Do not second guess them, just do it. When you get a little older, sure you can begin to dabble in other things, but at 14 years old, under 6' and under 200lbs. I can assure you, that you know nothing...
    lol im just wondering... have you ever played on a football team will?
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerboy93 View Post
    lol im just wondering... have you ever played on a football team will?



    yes, I did


    I played 4 years on my high schools team where I was named an all state player at Offensive Tackle and Defensive End.

    I went on to play Offensive Line at the University of Kentucky for 4 years before I was injured prior to my last year, forcing me to end my football career.

    I had a very brief stint in the Arena League and quit because I hated it.

    I have since coached at a number of camps and clinics and worked as a Graduate Assistant for the University of Kentucky. I later coached Offensive and Defensive Line at a Kentucky high school.



    I think I may know what Im talking about...
    Last edited by WillNoble; 01-03-2009 at 01:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillNoble View Post
    HAHAHAHA


    yes, I did


    I played 4 years on my high schools team where I was named an all state player at Offensive Tackle and Defensive End.

    I went on to play Offensive Line at the University of Kentucky for 4 years before I was injured prior to my last year, forcing me to end my football career.

    I had a very brief stint in the Arena League and quit because I hated it.

    I have since coached at a number of camps and clinics and worked as a Graduate Assistant for the University of Kentucky. I later coached Offensive and Defensive Line at a Kentucky high school.



    I think I may know what Im talking about...
    lol i never said u ddint know ur football stuff... i asked becuase @ 6'4 300 lbs ur ****ing hugeee
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    I just tried to put in my input, but you're right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwoodrb105 View Post
    I just tried to put in my input, but you're right.
    I'm not knocking you, but you need to also understand that you too are a beginner...

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    I understand man. You know TONS more then I can probably ever hope to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwoodrb105 View Post
    I understand man. You know TONS more then I can probably ever hope to.
    Just work hard and listen to your coaches. Don't try to over think them, at your age you are building the foundations for the rest of your career, whether it be high school, college, or pro... We all had to start somewhere, you have to pay your dues and work hard if you want to make it. Just shut up and lift, you're a freshman you've got lots to learn.


    Please do not take this as a slam, I truly mean this to help you. I wish someone would've told me the same thing when I was your age...

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    Thanks man, really.
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    both of you freshman will get a lot bigger. Especially you c wood if you train for football all year round. Ive been doing the same and it has helped me alot.
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    Well as a Junior going into my senior year of football I can say that you don't want to waste any of your time as a freshmen. I am the strongest kid in my high school but I could be a lot stronger than I am if I trained harder younger. With a 5' 9" frame you shouldn't do anything except for pushups,sit-ups,and pull-ups until about a month or two before the season. My best advice is to go to your high school weight room in the summer ready to work hard. Listen to the older guys, never think you know more, they have been around the block. And most of all, never be satisfied, you can only truely be successful if you surpass your own expectations. In everything you do in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillNoble View Post
    yes, I did


    I played 4 years on my high schools team where I was named an all state player at Offensive Tackle and Defensive End.

    I went on to play Offensive Line at the University of Kentucky for 4 years before I was injured prior to my last year, forcing me to end my football career.

    I had a very brief stint in the Arena League and quit because I hated it.

    I have since coached at a number of camps and clinics and worked as a Graduate Assistant for the University of Kentucky. I later coached Offensive and Defensive Line at a Kentucky high school.



    I think I may know what Im talking about...
    That should answer the question if Will has ever played FB or not.......Hahaha.

    VERY few jr. high and high school kids will listen...Thats why I could not handle coaching HS....Read Angry Coach on Elite....thats exactly how it is in many High Schools...

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