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    Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 RAW training program

    Anyone know when this book will be out? It's quite different from his book, Training Three Days A Week and I still can't seem to find it.


    To those who know all about it, does THIS explain it in complete detail?
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    I thought he released this as an e-book or some kind of download from EFS?

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    It's supposed to be more in-depth and comprehensive.

    Here he answers what the differences are:
    http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=89932&tid=

    And here is a preview of its table of contents:
    http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=89807&tid=

    Sounds like it's going to be available in hard copy and e-book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reko View Post
    I thought he released this as an e-book or some kind of download from EFS?
    From what I've heard, it WILL be released as an e-book but I can't find a date anywhere.


    Quote Originally Posted by Pete22 View Post
    It's supposed to be more in-depth and comprehensive.

    Here he answers what the differences are:
    http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=89932&tid=

    And here is a preview of its table of contents:
    http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=89807&tid=

    Sounds like it's going to be available in hard copy and e-book.
    Yeah, I've read those before but I still can't find out when it'll be released. I can't wait to get my hands on it, though.
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    I wonder what the postage is on the ebook?


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    Anyone?
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    depends on if you order $30 or more

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    have you tried asking Wendler when it will be released?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reko View Post
    have you tried asking Wendler when it will be released?
    I could just do that...
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    Jim was talking about it last weekend. It did not sound like it was ready presently.


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    Haven't heard that many great things about that book at all. Have you read it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Haven't heard that many great things about that book at all. Have you read it?
    It's pretty good. The 5/3/1 is in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Haven't heard that many great things about that book at all. Have you read it?
    It's old school compound movements. It's great for me because my squat and deadlift were aimless as a bencher. Now I use the 5-3-1 and it gives me a plan. I also use the benching template for my raw work. I use the raw work for my assistance on shirt days. Jim did not reinvent the wheel with this, but it is a great solid program. It cuts through all the bs so many trainers out there are trying to push nowadays.

    Plus Karsten is using it and that's reason enough for me.
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    It's a good program. I put 55lbs on my raw deadlift after two training cycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdizenzo View Post
    It's old school compound movements. It's great for me because my squat and deadlift were aimless as a bencher. Now I use the 5-3-1 and it gives me a plan. I also use the benching template for my raw work. I use the raw work for my assistance on shirt days. Jim did not reinvent the wheel with this, but it is a great solid program. It cuts through all the bs so many trainers out there are trying to push nowadays.
    I agree with what Vinnie said here 1000%. This program is simple, meaning a monkey could do it, which makes it great, and more importantly, IT WORKS. No B.S., no junk, no filler. Everything is based on the major lifts that have been making people bigger and stronger since the beginning of time. Did I mention how simple it is? There are WAY too many guys out there looking for "something different", or "something new", which really means they are lazy and looking for an easier way of doing things yet still reap the rewards. And there are a bunch of people out there telling people that they have these "cutting edge" programs available. For a fee of course. Like Jim says; Carpenters do it with wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillNoble View Post
    Damn, you're fast. Jim is probably in the process of repeating that date to me right now. Thanks for the update.

    If anyone is interested in the program, check my journal, I just broke it down in there.
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    Per the EFS it has arrived.

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    I just got an email from EFS, it's available today. http://www.flexcart.com/members/elit...d=370&pid=2976 for 19.99.
    Give chalk a chance.


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    I got two questions about the program that maybe you guys could answer. Once you've completed it, should you devote a week to maxing out or should you use the number of reps and weight you get in the third week of the program to put in for your second cycle (example, if prescribed to do 225x1, but you get it 3 times, would you want to go through the program again with 225x3 as your max or would you go and test your one rep max)?

    Second, is the program set up so that you will always get more than the prescribed reps? In essence, your last set is always a max reps scenario?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcraig5509 View Post
    I got two questions about the program that maybe you guys could answer. Once you've completed it, should you devote a week to maxing out or should you use the number of reps and weight you get in the third week of the program to put in for your second cycle (example, if prescribed to do 225x1, but you get it 3 times, would you want to go through the program again with 225x3 as your max or would you go and test your one rep max)?

    Second, is the program set up so that you will always get more than the prescribed reps? In essence, your last set is always a max reps scenario?
    Sounds like you need the book!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad08 View Post
    Sounds like you need the book!
    Exactly.

    Here's the lionk to buy the E Book.

    http://www.flexcart.com/members/elit...d=370&pid=2976

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    Thanks, guys. I checked last night but I guess it came out today. It's now purchased and on it's way via email.
    Age: 24 Height: 5'9" Weight: 185

    Gym PRs: 365/240/440=1045

    People need to quit ****ing asking what they need to do, exercise wise, until they reinforce their technique - Dave Tate

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcraig5509 View Post
    I got two questions about the program that maybe you guys could answer. Once you've completed it, should you devote a week to maxing out or should you use the number of reps and weight you get in the third week of the program to put in for your second cycle (example, if prescribed to do 225x1, but you get it 3 times, would you want to go through the program again with 225x3 as your max or would you go and test your one rep max)?

    Second, is the program set up so that you will always get more than the prescribed reps? In essence, your last set is always a max reps scenario?
    It's a $20 book.
    Age: 24 Height: 5'9" Weight: 185

    Gym PRs: 365/240/440=1045

    People need to quit ****ing asking what they need to do, exercise wise, until they reinforce their technique - Dave Tate

    The never-ending pursuit of becoming Strong(er) - My Westside journal

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