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Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    protein tubes

    Has neone ever used them, there about 4 oz and have 40grams of protein and the by IDS
    I use them as part of my protein for the day, I take that and a reg drink, all together its about 78grams of pro between them, is that bad should I drop them and add food or keep it, I have 4 reg meal and 2 drinks equal bout 210gram

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    It's fine, might be a little expensive though, aren't those tubes like 5 bucks each?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danmac View Post
    It's fine, might be a little expensive though, aren't those tubes like 5 bucks each?
    Yea there expensive but I buy them in bulk so I get like 12 for $30

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    Well if you can afford it then go for it. I could think of more economical sources, but its your call. How do they taste anyway? I always see them there on the counter but I have never picked one up.
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    This thread has so much potential for going directly to the gutter based on the title......

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    Quote Originally Posted by danmac View Post
    Well if you can afford it then go for it. I could think of more economical sources, but its your call. How do they taste anyway? I always see them there on the counter but I have never picked one up.
    they taste great and it only takes one gulp to get it down

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    That's still $2.50 @. Much cheaper to just have a shaker cup with a scoop of ON (or Nitrean!) and some milk.
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    The quality of protein in those tubes is questionable, since they use collagen and hydrolyzed protein.

    Here is some additional information that addresses that directly toward the end (with regard to PDCAA):

    "The FDA requires that a food's protein quality be measured using Protein Digestibility-Corrected Amino Acid Scoring (PDCAAS). The score ranks proteins based on digestibility and the relative level of essential amino acids. Protein is comprised of amino acids, and the essential amino acids are the ones that you must obtain through your diet since your body cannot manufacture them.

    When using the PDCAAS method for evaluating protein quality, a score of 1 indicates the highest quality of protein that supplies the essential amino acids at the right ratios to support growth and health. Egg, milk, soy isolate and meat proteins receive a score of 1 with this method. Conversely, gelatin is a poor quality protein with a PDCAAS of 0. The protein sources in the PowerBar TriSource*ô protein blend all score a 1 with the PDCAAS method.

    Do other bars offer high-quality protein? How can I tell?

    To determine if a bar contains high-quality protein, take a look at the Nutrition Facts panel on the back of the wrapper. There will be a row that lists the total grams of protein contained in that bar. If the bar is a making a protein claim, by regulation there should also be a % DV (Daily Value) listed next to the total number of grams. That DV percentage is corrected, or lowered, when a protein's PDCAAS score is lower than 1.0. For example, if the protein content is 20g, and the %DV is any less than 40%, then it means a PDCAAS score of less than 1.0 was applied (20g / 50g Daily Value = 40% DV). If the %DV corresponding to 20g of protein were 30% instead of 40%, for example, it would mean that the PDCAAS protein score for that product is 0.75, which is significantly lower in protein quality (by one quarter) than the 1.0 score for PowerBar's high quality TriSource Blend.

    Examples of poor quality proteins are gelatin and collagen (sometimes labeled as hydrolyzed protein), which some manufacturers use as a protein source in their bars. Gelatin and collagen have a Protein Digestibility-Corrected Amino Acid Scoring (PDCAAS) score of zero since they lack certain essential amino acids. If a product contains gelatin or collagen , then the total PDCAAS score will have to be less than 1.0 and you should see a %DV that has been lowered."

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    That's some useful information...Thanks!
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    Great post, Tom, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mutaffis View Post
    The quality of protein in those tubes is questionable, since they use collagen and hydrolyzed protein.

    Here is some additional information that addresses that directly toward the end (with regard to PDCAA):

    "The FDA requires that a food's protein quality be measured using Protein Digestibility-Corrected Amino Acid Scoring (PDCAAS). The score ranks proteins based on digestibility and the relative level of essential amino acids. Protein is comprised of amino acids, and the essential amino acids are the ones that you must obtain through your diet since your body cannot manufacture them.

    When using the PDCAAS method for evaluating protein quality, a score of 1 indicates the highest quality of protein that supplies the essential amino acids at the right ratios to support growth and health. Egg, milk, soy isolate and meat proteins receive a score of 1 with this method. Conversely, gelatin is a poor quality protein with a PDCAAS of 0. The protein sources in the PowerBar TriSource*ô protein blend all score a 1 with the PDCAAS method.

    Do other bars offer high-quality protein? How can I tell?

    To determine if a bar contains high-quality protein, take a look at the Nutrition Facts panel on the back of the wrapper. There will be a row that lists the total grams of protein contained in that bar. If the bar is a making a protein claim, by regulation there should also be a % DV (Daily Value) listed next to the total number of grams. That DV percentage is corrected, or lowered, when a protein's PDCAAS score is lower than 1.0. For example, if the protein content is 20g, and the %DV is any less than 40%, then it means a PDCAAS score of less than 1.0 was applied (20g / 50g Daily Value = 40% DV). If the %DV corresponding to 20g of protein were 30% instead of 40%, for example, it would mean that the PDCAAS protein score for that product is 0.75, which is significantly lower in protein quality (by one quarter) than the 1.0 score for PowerBar's high quality TriSource Blend.

    Examples of poor quality proteins are gelatin and collagen (sometimes labeled as hydrolyzed protein), which some manufacturers use as a protein source in their bars. Gelatin and collagen have a Protein Digestibility-Corrected Amino Acid Scoring (PDCAAS) score of zero since they lack certain essential amino acids. If a product contains gelatin or collagen , then the total PDCAAS score will have to be less than 1.0 and you should see a %DV that has been lowered."

    Source: http://ironman.com/training/sponsors...erbar-products
    Thanks alot

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    No kidding, thanks Tom, thats actually really useful. appreciate it man.
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