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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Dumbbell bench vs bar bench press

    What is your preference between the two? I have personally become a fan of dumbbells over a bar.

    Also, which can you do more weight on?

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    I am a fan of training with a barbell over a dumbbell.
    I can also bench a lot more with a barbell.
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    both have their uses. i've used dumbbells for the longest time because I didn't have a spotter, plus it would allow me to work on stabilizing the weights.
    however, the downfall is that you cannot microload, and a 10lb increase can be too much at times. barbells are used for raw strength, and usually everyones fav because they can lift more with it.
    but now i'm back to barbell, and i like it more, just because you can increase weights at a faster rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalami View Post
    I just give the worked on muscle group tough riddles before my workouts... or sometimes I'll tell them we're going to the park and then go to the gym, or visa versa. They start to catch on so you have to tell the truth every so often.
    *While on the topic of muscle confusion, and how often a routine needs to be changed.*

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    great advice from nockits, particularly the micoloading one.

    I prefer dumbells nowadays. I like that it requires more core strength and stability to balance the dumbells, but you do need a good spotter to go heavy.

    Mix it up, go back and forth so you get the best of both worlds
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    for some reason i can do more weight with dumbbells than i can with a barbell. I used to like barbell more but when i didnt progress that much with it I switched to dumbbells and i started moving up in weights. I might go back to barbell for about a month to switch it up and see how it works this time around.

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    floor pressing

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    isn't your ROM limited if you press from the floor though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalami View Post
    I just give the worked on muscle group tough riddles before my workouts... or sometimes I'll tell them we're going to the park and then go to the gym, or visa versa. They start to catch on so you have to tell the truth every so often.
    *While on the topic of muscle confusion, and how often a routine needs to be changed.*

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    Yes it is. It's more of a tricep movement than and actual pressing movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samadhi_smiles View Post
    floor pressing
    I really cant wait until I get back in my gym at home that has a power rack. I haven't been able to do floor presses in 6 mos.
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    I prefer barbell. Almost everyone can press more with a barbell than with dumbbells...I'm also not sure how you'd DB bench more than you BB bench...unless your ROM is less with DBs - maybe you are only touching the DB to your chest/shoulder...so your hand is farther away than it would be with a BB.

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    DB presses mimic a close grip press. You should be able to press more with a BB.
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    i prefer dumbells. i can do about the same weight on dumbells as ican on the barbell. on a good day i can mx ith 125 pounds per hand on dumbells full roms etc etc/. with the bar ican only manage around 250x2 or so.

    i spent one full year db training and on bb bench i bench with a really close grip so that could account for the similaritys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian C View Post
    DB presses mimic a close grip press. You should be able to press more with a BB.
    really? how so? i would have never related the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalami View Post
    I just give the worked on muscle group tough riddles before my workouts... or sometimes I'll tell them we're going to the park and then go to the gym, or visa versa. They start to catch on so you have to tell the truth every so often.
    *While on the topic of muscle confusion, and how often a routine needs to be changed.*

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    Really depends on the form.

    I could bench some dumbells and mimic a REALLY wide grip or I could be very strict, keep the elbows in and it would end up being narrower.

    I guess on the whole, most peoples would tend to be a touch narrower, but I have seen some strange dumbell pressing in my gym to contradict that lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by nockits View Post
    really? how so? i would have never related the two.
    Most people when doing DB presses will bring the weight straight down from a straight extended position. The full ROM stays in this range. If you look at the distance between your index fingers, its usually about the distance of index on rings/thumb off rings on a BB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nockits View Post
    isn't your ROM limited if you press from the floor though?
    you should try it dude

    it hits my chest real hard. and of course triceps it toasts them.

    its just a beastly movement. You're just like FU.UUUUCK yeah! <--- except laying down
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    Quote Originally Posted by samadhi_smiles View Post
    you should try it dude

    it hits my chest real hard. and of course triceps it toasts them.

    its just a beastly movement. You're just like FU.UUUUCK yeah! <--- except laying down
    I thought that this was hilarious. Fuuuuuuuumck yeahh! Llol.

    But anywayys I prefer the benchpress, I have more control of the weights and more weight can be added on. If you do switch it off and on like everyone says, you'll be able to build more strength that way. Dumbells are harder to stabalize, and your starting from your chest opposed to almost two feet above your head with a barbell. I went to dumbells for 2 months, and put a measly 10 pounds on my bench. But 10 pounds is 10 pounds right? Llol. Kust switch it up every once ina while you should be good

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    I like doing both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian C View Post
    Most people when doing DB presses will bring the weight straight down from a straight extended position. The full ROM stays in this range. If you look at the distance between your index fingers, its usually about the distance of index on rings/thumb off rings on a BB.
    so is it wrong if i don't bring it straight down? i tend to bring them out a bit so at the bottom of the ROM my hands are just outside of my shoulders, rather than over them. i find i can go deeper this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalami View Post
    I just give the worked on muscle group tough riddles before my workouts... or sometimes I'll tell them we're going to the park and then go to the gym, or visa versa. They start to catch on so you have to tell the truth every so often.
    *While on the topic of muscle confusion, and how often a routine needs to be changed.*

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