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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    There are way more nerdy powerlifters then someone would expect.. i have a degree in computer science, i didn't fit in too well in those classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SELK View Post
    There are way more nerdy powerlifters then someone would expect.. i have a degree in computer science, i didn't fit in too well in those classes.
    LOL! I have an Advanced Diploma of IT (Networking and Communications), I changed into Butchery for some STRANGE reason

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    That's good there are other nerds/geeks! We're actually working on a t-shirt design with that theme. We have 5 people with engineering degrees and another with a chemistry degree. A few of us have advanced degrees too. We had an interesting discussion on force vectors and squat technique during a training session.

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    375 was definitely deeper than I thought. 415 and 435 are tough to tell with the camera angle.

    Today's DE bench with a purple under the bench:
    140 6 x 3
    160 2 x 3

    First real DE bench in quite awhile. It felt much slower than it looks on video. I've definitely lost speed from not being able to do this.

    Overhead Dumbbell press:
    45 3 x 10

    Panora pulldown:
    purple doubled 4 x 8 (pretty easy)

    Rolling dumbbell extensions:
    40 4 x 8

    Panora press:
    MM + micro doubled 4 x 10

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    ME deadlift with 50 lbs of chains off 4" boxes:
    135 x 3
    225 x 3
    315 x 3
    405 x 3
    495 x 1
    545 x 1
    585 x 1
    635 x miss

    Yup, I still suck at deads off boxes. This are going to become a focus after the meet under I can deadlift more off a box than off the floor.

    GHR:
    green 3 x 12 (super easy)

    Back extensions:
    BW 2 x 10

    KB swings:
    32kg 2 x 10

    I'm shirting up Thursday, then I need to get serious about deloading for the meet.
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    Those chain platform pulls sound brutal haha

    good vids lately too bro; excellent pre-workout motivation haha
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    **** in here is outrageous man.

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    The pulls weren't too bad. I just suck at pulling off blocks. Thanks, I think the gym is getting a more intense vibe.

    Thanks CoCoa.

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    Video Q&A had to be 2 parts since it's over 10 minutes.

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    Shirted bench
    405 x 1 3-bd
    475 x 1 2 bd
    505 x 1 full ROM

    Opener felt pretty good.

    Band tuck exercise
    purple x 8
    green x 8

    Tate press
    35 3 x 10

    Seated row
    200 2 x 10

    Time to focus on restoration.
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    Dayum, super benching vid.

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    Thanks!

    Saturday DE squat:
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    Sunday DE bench:
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    Our DE work has progressively gotten too heavy and too slow. It's time to change that.
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    That's a good call Marcus. If you are doing a true ME day, you have to be careful not to get carried away with the DE work being too heavy. I think where people often get in trouble with a Westside template is going too heavy too often on DE day. I know I've been guilty of this in the past.

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    When box squatting, i notice that some people in your training group more or less seem to just use the box to test depth. While others sit back and really deload on the box. Which way does louie suggest / you find work better?

    I know I really sit back on the box, I could pick my feet up off the ground while on the box no problem. I don't know if this is correct, just what ive always done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQEbIaFW_f0
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    Sean, it's mostly an ego/competition thing. Once on person goes heavier on DE, then everyone else wants to go heavier too. It's easy to get carried away and lose the speed.


    Ryan, when I did the seminar, Louie said I have good squat form. My main focus is to hold my arch and keep my knees out. The hips will naturally relax once you are on the box. I definitely think you should fully sit on the box. I'm not a fan of rocking on the box. I think it's a bad habit and can really mess up your free squats. Becky is the worst about using the box for depth vs sitting on it. I think some people also cheat with the foam. They don't fully sink into it and it becomes more a touch and go.
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    Thats true about DE work, its really easy to use too heavy weights and effect your ME work. Back when I trained with a group and helped them with program design I used waaaay to high of a percent for DE work and nobody got faster.

    That makes sense on the box squats, I think my raw box squat is a fair amount different then my geared box squat now that I look at some vids. I rock a bit when raw for sure, bad habit.

    liking the vids lately btw..
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    Rocking forward lets you get the weight into your quads and most people are quad dominant when squatting raw. When it's heavy, your body is going to naturally use the strongest muscles. As your hamstrings get stronger, then you want to rock less. SMR has only squatted raw, and he used to rock BAD. He couldn't do a GHR rep. He started with a purple band assisting him. Now he can do sets of 8 with BW (and he's 340). He sits back more and rocks much less. You'll almost always hit a point where you rock raw though.

    Thanks. I'm glad you like the videos.
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    Last night's video with a visit from one of our friends from Super Training.

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    Video Q&A for this week:
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    Last night's bench training:
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    We got another power rack. It's an elite 2x2 rack. It's an older one that doesn't have band peg holes. Now we have to move some stuff around again. We moved some last night, then we'll finish moving equipment Monday.

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    Meet results:
    733 - good
    755 - miss (I lost air part way up. The unrack sucked.)
    755 - miss (Right knee caved in and I lost balance near the top. This was just stupid.)

    Bench:
    507 - miss (First time I've had my butt come off the bench. My glute was cramping so I didn't get my feet right.)
    507 - good
    523 - good (I went conservative which was a good call. I set it up so 683 would give me elite.)

    Deadlift:
    622 - good
    683 - good (elite total)
    722 - miss (I was going to pass. Hoss called me out and said to go 722. I got it caught on my knee. I need to wear shin guards.)

    1940 elite total @242.

    It was a quick moving meet. I never had time to do more than snack a little and eat gatorade. That part kind of sucked.

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    Nice work on the elite total.

    That last attempt at 755 couldn't have been any closer.

    plans to stick with the multiply a bit longer? I don't think you are far from an 805lbs+ squat and well over 2k total.
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    Thanks. Yeah, I want to focus on multi-ply. I feel like I'm strong enough to squat 800+, but my setup has to be on. My setup SUCKED on all 3 of those. I was off balance all over the place. I need to stop setting up based on our rack and setup based on the bar. Plus on our mono, you can swing the bar forward and back to get it into the right spot before you unrack it. I guess I need to stop doing that and setup right, because you can't swing a real mono.

    I'll probably do 1 more single-ply meet just to get elite there too. It's 1890 in the USPF. I'm not sure when/where that meet will be. Main focus now will be squat setup, improving stability, and getting my bench going again which means keeping my shoulders healthy enough to properly train.
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    Good job on the total Marcus. It looked like you weren't getting alot of pop out the hole in the squats. I suspect if you get your set-up and balance issues corrected you will come up faster. For me, being very precise with my set-up and positioning makes a huge difference in how well the equipment works in the SQ.

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    Congrats on the elite Markus! get that setup right and you're good for a big pr
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