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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    DL and Rdl on same day?

    DL 5x5, RDL 3x5, or should I put Rdl on squat day? Thanks

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    anyone?

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    Either one. Switch it up
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    Why don't you provide your entire routine and we'll see how it looks? I would not do RDLs on the same day I DL. If I did make an exception, it surely wouldn't involve 3x5 after 5x5.

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    5x5 DL is ALOT of volume as it is.

    I wouldn't even do a 5x5 deadlift session...

    3x5 maybe...

    5x3 could work too...
    "Donít fall for the crap that people are peddling on message boards, in magazines or on TV. Get your **** in order, and get your training in order. Start kicking ass, and take out the crap that doesnít matter. Start doing and believing in the stuff that works, and do it today and forever. You want science and studies? **** you. Iíve got scars and blood and vomit."
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    that'd be a lot of wear and tear on the lower back

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    im doing wbb 1.1 but as a 4x5 for everything, but without pull through,step ups and lunges


    so it would go like this

    MON

    bench 4x5
    hammer row 4x5
    military press 4x5
    dips 4x5
    bb curl 4x5

    Tues legs

    thrusday

    incline bench 3x5
    pullup 4x5
    bb row 4x5
    arnold press 3x5
    skulls 4x5

    Friday
    legs


    any suggestions give them please
    Last edited by Al19067; 05-10-2009 at 09:53 AM.

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    Why aren't you explaining your leg workout?
    "Donít fall for the crap that people are peddling on message boards, in magazines or on TV. Get your **** in order, and get your training in order. Start kicking ass, and take out the crap that doesnít matter. Start doing and believing in the stuff that works, and do it today and forever. You want science and studies? **** you. Iíve got scars and blood and vomit."
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoSh View Post
    Why aren't you explaining your leg workout?
    cause i usually do, squats 4x5 and leg press 3x5 and curls 3x10 for tues
    and for friday would b deadlift 4x5 then high foot placement press for 3x5 and then extensions for 3x12 and i wanted to switch it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progress View Post
    Why don't you provide your entire routine and we'll see how it looks? I would not do RDLs on the same day I DL. If I did make an exception, it surely wouldn't involve 3x5 after 5x5.
    its posted now

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    With something like Romanian deadlifts that requires a lot of conscious lower back arching I would find it difficult to keep form for 3 sets of 5. I normally treat them as an assistance exercise and do 3 x 8 and usually after squatting as opposed to after deadlifting. But that's just me though. You should probably try it yourself and see what works best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al19067 View Post
    its posted now
    You failed to post your lower body lifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progress View Post
    You failed to post your lower body lifts.
    Actually I did post them look

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    Post it in the routine. We need the full routine to help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMonkey View Post
    Post it in the routine. We need the full routine to help you.
    MON
    Flat bench 4x5
    Military 4x5
    Hammer row 4x5
    Dips 4x5
    Bb curls 4x5

    TUE
    Squat 4x5
    Leg press 3x6
    Leg curl 3x8

    Thrus
    Incline bench 3x5
    Arnold press 3x5
    Pullups 4x5
    Bb row 3x6
    Skulls 3x5

    FRI
    Dl 4x5
    Lunges 3x5
    Leg ext 3x8

    Tell me what I need to change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al19067 View Post
    MON
    Flat bench 4x5
    Military 4x5
    Hammer row 4x5
    Dips 4x5
    Bb curls 4x5

    TUE
    Squat 4x5
    Leg press 3x6
    Leg curl 3x8

    Thrus
    Incline bench 3x5
    Arnold press 3x5
    Pullups 4x5
    Bb row 3x6
    Skulls 3x5

    FRI
    Dl 4x5
    Lunges 3x5
    Leg ext 3x8

    Tell me what I need to change
    If you are lifting with intensity you don't need half of these exercises. Other than that its not bad at all. Here's what I'd recommend:

    Monday -

    Flat bench 4x5
    Hammer row 4x5
    Standing barbell curls 4x5

    Tuesday -

    Squats 4x5
    Core work, maybe weighted crunches 4x5

    Thursday -

    Weighted pullups 4x5
    STANDING military press 4x5
    Close-grip bench press or skullcrushers 4x5

    Friday -

    Deadlifts 4x5
    Lunges 3x5
    Heavy ab work/core work


    That's it, solid routine for a beginner or intermediate lifter. Push each exercise hard for all 4 sets and you won't be able to do much more work, and you don't need to do more than that. Eat a ton, get 7+ hours of sleep, and you will grow like a weed.
    Last edited by Meat_Head; 05-10-2009 at 11:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMeat_Headx View Post
    If you are lifting with intensity you don't need half of these exercises. Other than that its not bad at all. Here's what I'd recommend:

    Monday -

    Flat bench 4x5
    Hammer row 4x5
    Standing barbell curls 4x5

    Tuesday -

    Squats 4x5
    Core work, maybe weighted crunches 4x5

    Thursday -

    Weighted pullups 4x5
    STANDING military press 4x5
    Close-grip bench press or skullcrushers 4x5

    Friday -

    Deadlifts 4x5
    Lunges 3x5
    Heavy ab work/core work


    That's it, solid routine for a beginner or intermediate lifter. Push each exercise hard for all 4 sets and you won't be able to do much more work, and you don't need to do more than that. Eat a ton, get 7+ hours of sleep, and you will grow like a weed.
    thanks for the help, but im cutting so i wont grow lol, but yea im just looking to keep my strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al19067 View Post
    thanks for the help, but im cutting so i wont grow lol, but yea im just looking to keep my strength
    Personally, that's too much volume on a cut for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al19067 View Post
    thanks for the help, but im cutting so i wont grow lol, but yea im just looking to keep my strength
    My mistake, but what I was saying applies even more if you are cutting. Just be careful about having too many intense sets per workout. You are more likely to overtrain or sustain an injury when you are in a caloric deficit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMeat_Headx View Post
    My mistake, but what I was saying applies even more if you are cutting. Just be careful about having too many intense sets per workout. You are more likely to overtrain or sustain an injury when you are in a caloric deficit.
    thanks for the advice

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