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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  1. #1
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    I just went to the grocery store to start eating better

    This is the list of items I bought:

    Oven-Toasted Quick Oats (1 big can thing)
    Minute Instant Whole Grain Brown Rice (2 boxes)
    Rice A Roni Long Grain & Wild Rice (2 boxes)
    Pepper
    Salt
    Lowfat Cottage Cheese
    Ramen Noodles Oriental Flavor (8 packs)
    Butter
    Eggs (2 cartons)
    Red Potatoes (5 pound bag)
    Celery
    Cauliflower
    Bush's Best Light Red Kidney Beans (1 can)
    Bush's Best Black Beans (3 cans)
    Bush's Best Pinto Beans (1 can)
    Kraft Light Ranch Dressing
    Cut Green Beans (2 cans)
    Blackeye Peas (1 can)
    Whole Grain Whole Wheat Bread
    Kellogg's All Bran Original Cereal (1 box)
    Pecans (1 bag)
    Almonds (1 bag)
    Smucker's All Natural Peanut Butter (1 can)
    Gallon of Fat Free Milk
    Flaxseed Oil Pills (1 can)
    Tuna (8 cans)
    Salmon (4 cans)
    Bananas (6)
    Strawberries
    Cream of Wheat Enriched Farina (1 box)
    Whole Wheat Flour Tortillas (1 bag of 10)
    Tomatoes (3)
    Fresh Express Hearts of Romaine Lettuce (2 bags)
    Broccoli
    Apples (4)

    So is this good? Will someone please help me put together a food meal plan for these items? I workout on Sundays, Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. I run on Sundays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays.

    I work at a conference office from 8-5 everyday so I go to the gym at 5:15.

    I also have ON Whey Protein already bought. I just forgot to buy a shaker.

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    I'd say repost this list in your other thread and keep it consolidated.

    It'll be hard for us to put a food program together without knowing more specifics (calorie intake, goal). Go to the AHA page I linked before and figure out ROUGHLY what your intake should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettmartin View Post
    This is the list of items I bought:

    Oven-Toasted Quick Oats (1 big can thing)
    Minute Instant Whole Grain Brown Rice (2 boxes)
    Rice A Roni Long Grain & Wild Rice (2 boxes)
    Pepper
    Salt
    Lowfat Cottage Cheese
    Ramen Noodles Oriental Flavor (8 packs) -- tons of salt, all carbs...
    Butter
    Eggs (2 cartons)
    Red Potatoes (5 pound bag)
    Celery
    Cauliflower
    Bush's Best Light Red Kidney Beans (1 can)
    Bush's Best Black Beans (3 cans)
    Bush's Best Pinto Beans (1 can)
    Kraft Light Ranch Dressing
    Cut Green Beans (2 cans)
    Blackeye Peas (1 can)
    Whole Grain Whole Wheat Bread
    Kellogg's All Bran Original Cereal (1 box)
    Pecans (1 bag)
    Almonds (1 bag)
    Smucker's All Natural Peanut Butter (1 can)
    Gallon of Fat Free Milk
    Flaxseed Oil Pills (1 can) -- I think the consensus is that fish oil is better
    Tuna (8 cans)
    Salmon (4 cans)
    Bananas (6)
    Strawberries
    Cream of Wheat Enriched Farina (1 box)
    Whole Wheat Flour Tortillas (1 bag of 10)
    Tomatoes (3)
    Fresh Express Hearts of Romaine Lettuce (2 bags)
    Broccoli
    Apples (4)

    So is this good? Will someone please help me put together a food meal plan for these items? I workout on Sundays, Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. I run on Sundays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays.

    I work at a conference office from 8-5 everyday so I go to the gym at 5:15.

    I also have ON Whey Protein already bought. I just forgot to buy a shaker.
    Other than the two comments I put in above I'd say it all looks pretty good! I don't think anyone is going to put together a meal plan for you. If you come back with some rough drafts for your goals I'm sure someone will give you some help ironing out the kinks.

    There are some good nutrition articles on this site and believe it or not there are some pretty decent ones over at t-nation. Do some reading, decide what your goals are and I'm sure you can come up with something basic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettmartin View Post
    This is the list of items I bought:

    Oven-Toasted Quick Oats (1 big can thing)
    Minute Instant Whole Grain Brown Rice (2 boxes)
    Rice A Roni Long Grain & Wild Rice (2 boxes)
    Pepper
    Salt
    Lowfat Cottage Cheese
    Ramen Noodles Oriental Flavor (8 packs)
    Butter
    Eggs (2 cartons)
    Red Potatoes (5 pound bag)
    Celery
    Cauliflower
    Bush's Best Light Red Kidney Beans (1 can)
    Bush's Best Black Beans (3 cans)
    Bush's Best Pinto Beans (1 can)
    Kraft Light Ranch Dressing
    Cut Green Beans (2 cans)
    Blackeye Peas (1 can)
    Whole Grain Whole Wheat Bread
    Kellogg's All Bran Original Cereal (1 box)
    Pecans (1 bag)
    Almonds (1 bag)
    Smucker's All Natural Peanut Butter (1 can)
    Gallon of Fat Free Milk
    Flaxseed Oil Pills (1 can)
    Tuna (8 cans)
    Salmon (4 cans)
    Bananas (6)
    Strawberries
    Cream of Wheat Enriched Farina (1 box)
    Whole Wheat Flour Tortillas (1 bag of 10)
    Tomatoes (3)
    Fresh Express Hearts of Romaine Lettuce (2 bags)
    Broccoli
    Apples (4)

    So is this good? Will someone please help me put together a food meal plan for these items? I workout on Sundays, Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. I run on Sundays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays.

    I work at a conference office from 8-5 everyday so I go to the gym at 5:15.

    I also have ON Whey Protein already bought. I just forgot to buy a shaker.
    What are your goals?

    As far as the ramen goes, if you don't have a pre-existing heart condition, salt is fine, and fit the carbs into your macros.

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    What does Farina taste like?

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    Some good choices but the daily macros/calories is what is going to matter. Mix and match what you bought to fit a meal plan setup for your goals.
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    It looks like a whole lot of canned and processed food. Aside from 12 cans of fish and some eggs, you've got no meat on the list. Canned beans are vastly inferior to dry beans in both nutrition and flavor.

    Buy more fresh food, less canned food. It's usually cheaper anyway. Buy some friggin' meat next time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    It looks like a whole lot of canned and processed food. Aside from 12 cans of fish and some eggs, you've got no meat on the list. Canned beans are vastly inferior to dry beans in both nutrition and flavor.

    Buy more fresh food, less canned food. It's usually cheaper anyway. Buy some friggin' meat next time!
    I think you are very much mistaken because I got pretty much this whole list off bodybuilding.com's supersite. OHHHH! Owned...

    This is what I ate today:

    Breakfast: 3 egg whites, 1 scoops of protein powder in water, oatmeal with strawberries, banana
    Mid Morning Snack: Peanut Butter Bread sandwich with handfuls of pecans and almonds
    Afternoon: Leftover rice and beans from last night along with some raw broccoli
    Mid Afternoon snack: salmon in tortilla wrap and apple
    Dinner: Ramen Noodles mixed in with can of tuna, one red potato, salad with tomatoes

    Look good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettmartin View Post
    I think you are very much mistaken because I got pretty much this whole list off bodybuilding.com's supersite. OHHHH! Owned...
    LOL Viking knows his **** man you should listen to him
    Last edited by jp2; 05-25-2009 at 06:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettmartin View Post
    I think you are very much mistaken because I got pretty much this whole list off bodybuilding.com's supersite. OHHHH! Owned...

    This is what I ate today:

    Breakfast: 3 egg whites, 1 scoops of protein powder in water, oatmeal with strawberries, banana
    Mid Morning Snack: Peanut Butter Bread sandwich with handfuls of pecans and almonds
    Afternoon: Leftover rice and beans from last night along with some raw broccoli
    Mid Afternoon snack: salmon in tortilla wrap and apple
    Dinner: Ramen Noodles mixed in with can of tuna, one red potato, salad with tomatoes

    Look good?
    Owned? Hardly, fetus. I don't care where that list came from, fresh food will always be superior to canned food in every way. Natural > processed. Ramen = trash.

    Like someone said above, your diet can't be judged accurately unless you provide macros. As someone else said, you never told us whether you're bulking, cutting, or recomping.

    It also amuses me that you asked for a critique and, when you got one that wasn't what you wanted to hear, you went net-tard. How mature.
    Last edited by VikingWarlord; 05-25-2009 at 06:22 PM.
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    Why are you asking here if you have BB's super site to base your meal plans off of? Viking gave you pretty much the best advice to set up a real diet that will be both good for you and good for your pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettmartin View Post
    I think you are very much mistaken because I got pretty much this whole list off bodybuilding.com's supersite. OHHHH! Owned...

    This is what I ate today:

    Breakfast: 3 egg whites, 1 scoops of protein powder in water, oatmeal with strawberries, banana
    Mid Morning Snack: Peanut Butter Bread sandwich with handfuls of pecans and almonds
    Afternoon: Leftover rice and beans from last night along with some raw broccoli
    Mid Afternoon snack: salmon in tortilla wrap and apple
    Dinner: Ramen Noodles mixed in with can of tuna, one red potato, salad with tomatoes

    Look good?
    You owned yourself eating that crap, and already got on the bad side of a senior member of the board by acting like a **********.

    Girls need more protein than what is in the food selection you posted, you expect to become muscular eating that? And ramen noodles... are you serious? Unless you're a freshman in college and have no regard for your health, or work in a sweatshop for a dollar a day, you should buy better food than ramen. Salad with tomatoes? No dressing? Are you aware dressing has calories? Or are you literally eating iceberg lettuce with some tomato slices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettmartin View Post
    I think you are very much mistaken because I got pretty much this whole list off bodybuilding.com's supersite.
    Last edited by Mercuryblade; 05-26-2009 at 12:53 AM.

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    Actually beans have compounds in them that will block protein from being absorbed. They are very poor choices if you are looking for protein.

    If you're looking for fiber and gas and mild to poor flavor then beans are GREAT!
    Last edited by samadhi_smiles; 05-26-2009 at 08:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samadhi_smiles View Post
    Actually beans have compounds in them that will block protein from being absorbed. They are very poor choices if you are looking for protein.

    If you're looking for fiber and gas and mild to poor flavor then beans are GREAT!
    Which compounds are those?

    It's entirely possible to prepare beans so they don't cause gas and if they don't taste good it's because you can't cook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    Which compounds are those?

    It's entirely possible to prepare beans so they don't cause gas and if they don't taste good it's because you can't cook.
    Your probably right, but I cant take the risk! Without beans I can power half of New York with my farts.

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    I got three quarters of the way through that list thinking you were a vegetarian.

    Viking is right, focus your diet on whole, unprocessed foods. Eat more meat and less carbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettmartin View Post
    I think you are very much mistaken because I got pretty much this whole list off bodybuilding.com's supersite. OHHHH! Owned...

    This is what I ate today:

    Breakfast: 3 egg whites, 1 scoops of protein powder in water, oatmeal with strawberries, banana
    Mid Morning Snack: Peanut Butter Bread sandwich with handfuls of pecans and almonds
    Afternoon: Leftover rice and beans from last night along with some raw broccoli
    Mid Afternoon snack: salmon in tortilla wrap and apple
    Dinner: Ramen Noodles mixed in with can of tuna, one red potato, salad with tomatoes

    Look good?
    Who knows without macros.
    Breakfast- 1 cup oats? 2 cups? 10 Cups? (calories could range from 300-3000)
    Snack- What is a handful. Nuts are immensely calorie dense (120-500 cals)
    Afternoon- Same thing, 150 calores or 500 calories?
    Same same same same

    Without quanities and macros who knows if it decent. It could be 800g of carbs and 50g of protein. Who knows without you measuring the stuff out and telling us what you actually eat. Eating whey and donuts could be a better diet if portions are under control.
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    I am under the impression that he will not come back, and if he does it will be under a new name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperTerrorizer View Post
    What does Farina taste like?
    It's awesome. It is a better tasting oatmeal. My Grandmother used to make it for me all the time when I was a kid. Although at that age I would put a pound of sugar in it so I don't know how good it is without the stuff.

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