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    "Easier" is a horrible reason not to clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by in flames View Post
    hey guys this may sound stupid but can I alternate the powerclean with some other kind of lift/excercise which is easier to do?
    Why do you a physical limitation? If not just do them. They are awkward and suck at first but are so beneficial.
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    I weigh 9 and a half stone, so almost 140 pounds or so if you're american. What weight shall i start with on all of the workouts?

    Also, what foods shall i eat while doing so. I'm fairly skinny.

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    So you guys are doing Deadlifts twice a week every other week? isn't that a lil much? Rippetoe says on page 300 that workout 'a' alternates between the Clean and DL, and workout 'b' is just back extensions...

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    Aslin it depends which version SS...the beginners version calls for alternating dL on day A with cleans on day B...

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    I have a DOMS related-question. I have been in and out of weight lifting for the past 5 years after going hard at it for 8-9 years straight. Rather than go with some of the routines I have done in the past, I thought something like this would be a good re-boot. I have surprisingly very good form still on all these exercises (thank my relentless h.s. football coaches for that haha).

    The problem I have is that no matter what my caloric intake, macros, sleep, rest patterns etc are I get moderate to severe DOMS for the first couple weeks of lifting after a long spell off. With routines I've done in the past I could work it out and vary lifts, but SS seems to be a different animal. What I will most likely do is my own limited reps/sets for the first couple weeks of each of these exercises to get over the hump, but I am curious to any other suggestions by people here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiverz View Post
    I have a DOMS related-question. I have been in and out of weight lifting for the past 5 years after going hard at it for 8-9 years straight. Rather than go with some of the routines I have done in the past, I thought something like this would be a good re-boot. I have surprisingly very good form still on all these exercises (thank my relentless h.s. football coaches for that haha).

    The problem I have is that no matter what my caloric intake, macros, sleep, rest patterns etc are I get moderate to severe DOMS for the first couple weeks of lifting after a long spell off. With routines I've done in the past I could work it out and vary lifts, but SS seems to be a different animal. What I will most likely do is my own limited reps/sets for the first couple weeks of each of these exercises to get over the hump, but I am curious to any other suggestions by people here.
    Just start at a realistic weight and work through the pain. It will go away!
    "The deadlift is more functional in that itís very hard to imagine a more useful application of strength than picking heavy *h*t up off the ground" Rip

    Max 3x5 Goal 3x5 by 12/31/11 *1X5
    Bench (245) (275) 285x1x1 335
    Dead (385)* (445) 435x1x1 505
    Squat (320) (355) 355X1X1 405
    Squat (195) (275) 20 Reppers!
    (950) (1075) 1075 1245 Goals (Not including 20 reps)
    5'10" 288Lbs 02/01/2011 Goal Weight 230 On my way back from a Break!

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    Agreed. Just do the workout as prescribed and you'll be over the DOMS in a couple of weeks.
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    When substituting barbell rows for the power cleans, should I maintain 5X3 sets, or do I go up to 3X5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aterry View Post
    When substituting barbell rows for the power cleans, should I maintain 5X3 sets, or do I go up to 3X5?
    Go back to 3X5. Although PC's suck they are a fun movement that I really like,I would do them if possible.
    "The deadlift is more functional in that itís very hard to imagine a more useful application of strength than picking heavy *h*t up off the ground" Rip

    Max 3x5 Goal 3x5 by 12/31/11 *1X5
    Bench (245) (275) 285x1x1 335
    Dead (385)* (445) 435x1x1 505
    Squat (320) (355) 355X1X1 405
    Squat (195) (275) 20 Reppers!
    (950) (1075) 1075 1245 Goals (Not including 20 reps)
    5'10" 288Lbs 02/01/2011 Goal Weight 230 On my way back from a Break!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinny99 View Post
    Go back to 3X5. Although PC's suck they are a fun movement that I really like,I would do them if possible.
    I definitely liked doing power cleans. Unfortunately, I injured my rotator cuff back in August and the power clean motion is too painful to do. Instead of risking reinjuring it again, I feel I need to do barbell rows instead.
    Last edited by aterry; 03-22-2010 at 10:31 AM.

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    Thanks for posting these.

    Clearly I have a lot of catching up to do.

    The squat video is especially informative (to me).

    I'll be getting the book and dvd shortly.
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    I've been doing SS for about two months (well, to be precise I do the modified version where power cleans have been replaced by rows, simply because I didn't have anyone to teach me the cleans when I started). It has been great, but today my lower back felt terrible, and I got a bit concerned. Let me give you some background info...

    Last session, two days ago, I tried to squat at a new weight (100kg), I could only do 5/4/3 and I was super tired afterwards (not a great day). It was DL day too, and I did a personal best there afterwards (100 kg too), even though I was really fatigued. I suspect though that my form was not the best. The first thing to 'breakdown' for me on the DL when I get tired is always that my back starts rounding a little. Both the upper and the lower part. I'm not very flexible, and I struggle with keeping my back arched at the bottom of the lift.

    So anways, today I was gonna squat 100kg again, but I could feel allready at the warm up that my lower back was really tired. It wasn't actually a problem while lifting though, so I completed the exercise and managed to do all the reps. But afterwards I felt like I should lie down and rest my lower back; it didn't feel tired in a 'good way'. I completed the presses after this, but decide to skip the rows because in my experience they hit the lower back pretty hard too.

    Do you guys think this is a form issue? Or do I just need rest?

    I was thinking I should probably reset my DL so that I can do them with perfect form. But another issue is that I think I could probably do the DLs with good form if I wasn't so tired from the squats. I've seen people modify SS so that they do light squats/front squats on wednesday, and also move the DLs to this day, so I was considering that too. But two months in is maybe a bit early for that?

    I should probably also mention that it is quite common for me to really feel it in the lower back after the workouts (both A and B), but I always just considered this to be part of the deal. It has never been extreme like today though, and I have always been able to recover untill the next wo.

    Thanks in advance for any advice

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