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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by john o View Post
    Are these magic oats? Actually, I think you'll benefit from them.
    If only. I think so as well. I have been feeling the need to add another meal for quite some time, so this might be the solution.

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    Magic Oats...

    Good luck with IF, let us know how you like it. Not something I'd ever do, but it's great to hear other's experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    Magic Oats...

    Good luck with IF, let us know how you like it. Not something I'd ever do, but it's great to hear other's experiences.
    I am only doing one day of it. I did the same last week after my refeed. I was/am very surprised with the energy/mental clarity i have with not eating breakfast. I was expecting to be more sluggish because i didnt have anything to eat. I wasnt really hungry this morning, allthough i noticed it more because i wasnt very busy at work.

    It is a very interesting approach, however i dont want to change my dieting approach at the moment because it is going well. I will most likely try it on future diets.

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    Magic oats sound good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hopper View Post
    Magic oats sound good
    They do indeed.

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    I am going to start doing some HIIT cardio instead of the normal MISS i have been doing on the treadmill. I have said before that i wouldnt been able to recover from it, but this wasnt based on experience. I need to throw it in and see what the effects are. I am looking forward to take it up a notch as i want to be finishing this cut before July and i still have around 12-13 lbs to loose imo.

    Also thinking about not doing weekly refeeds anymore except for when i feel i need it. If i take out the refeed, i will include a cheat meal on the weekend as i did before. Will look at how i feel at the end of the week and see then.

    I need to push for the coming weeks as im starting to look forward to going back to gaining muscle again. Its been 20 weeks now and im starting to feel demotivated by this cut.

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    You've ran a great race, just a few more miles to go. Keep pushing!

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    20 weeks? You've got willpower of steel, mate. Great work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john o View Post
    You've ran a great race, just a few more miles to go. Keep pushing!
    Thanks John. You are right, i need to keep going and finish this off strong.

    Quote Originally Posted by GazzyG View Post
    20 weeks? You've got willpower of steel, mate. Great work.
    Thanks Gazzy! Its been pretty enjoyable throughout, but these last couple of pounds are going to be a bit tougher.
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    You might want to just start switching over to the HITT stuff slowly. Shorten your MISS stuff a little each week and slowly add in some HITT stuff at the end of it. Just a thought if you're worried about recovery at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    You might want to just start switching over to the HITT stuff slowly. Shorten your MISS stuff a little each week and slowly add in some HITT stuff at the end of it. Just a thought if you're worried about recovery at all.
    I agree. I will probably go by feeling. If i feel a bit run down ill do some medium intensity work. I think the weeks that i train lower twice i will have to be carefull the most.

    Im really not too sure about what i can take recovery wise, so this will be a good learning experience.

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    All this fancy lingo, what does HITT and MISS mean???
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    I'd give the HIIT a shot LuNa, I honestly much preferred it over MISS when I was cutting. However as you said you need to be conservative with adding it in. I'd do as OR said and slowly replace MISS sessions with HIIT. You could do something like 20 mins of HIIT, followed immediately by 20 mins MISS. Shelby had me doing that and I feel it worked very well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hopper View Post
    All this fancy lingo, what does HITT and MISS mean???
    HIIT = High Intensity Interval Training
    -Example: Walking/Jogging on treadmill for 45 seconds, sprinting for 15 seconds, repeat.

    MISS = Mild Intensity Steady State (Cardio)
    -Example: Walking on the treadmill w/ incline for 30+ minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by KIBBLES N BITS View Post
    HIIT = High Intensity Interval Training
    -Example: Walking/Jogging on treadmill for 45 seconds, sprinting for 15 seconds, repeat.

    MISS = Mild Intensity Steady State (Cardio)
    -Example: Walking on the treadmill w/ incline for 30+ minutes
    Oh ok, Thanks alot!!!! I had a feeling that some sort of intensity had something to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KIBBLES N BITS View Post
    I'd give the HIIT a shot LuNa, I honestly much preferred it over MISS when I was cutting. However as you said you need to be conservative with adding it in. I'd do as OR said and slowly replace MISS sessions with HIIT. You could do something like 20 mins of HIIT, followed immediately by 20 mins MISS. Shelby had me doing that and I feel it worked very well.
    Im actually excited to switch up my cardio a bit. I have done HIIT before when i was on 5/3/1 and i enjoyed it a lot.

    I will start off with making 1 session HIIT and the other MISS. OR posted somewhere to do it the day after your leg session, not before and im going to apply that. Will also use your suggestion and add in a little higher intensity work after my MISS.

    Thanks for the help guys.

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    Pre-workout: Magic Oats

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    Incline bench press
    6,2,2,2x72.5kg (160lbs)

    Chin ups
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    Dips
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    Nice and quick session. I felt better with the pre workout shake, was not hungry through out and i feel my endurance did increase a little. Lower back is still sore, so i opted for the chest supported row. Im starting to enjoy my upper body sessions more and more now that im able to do lifts such as pull ups and dips.

    Diet: good, feeling hungrier throughout the day which isnt much of a problem as long as i can keep busy. Supplementing with green tea doesnt seem to do anything for diminishing my hunger.

    Sleep: got about 7 hours of solid sleep. Much better than normal now that i wasnt hyped up from stimulants.

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    Chest supported row is a cool lift. Dig that.

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    Green tea worked for me a little, but wasn't anything worth writing home about. Gum helps me throughout the day. Solid work on the pullups man, and all around progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark! View Post
    Green tea worked for me a little, but wasn't anything worth writing home about. Gum helps me throughout the day. Solid work on the pullups man, and all around progress.
    It seems to have a small impact on metabolism but my hunger is stronger than ever . I try and drink as much water as i can as it fills me up quite well. Gum would be a good idea to, thanks.

    Thanks Mark, pull ups become a lot more fun when you can actually do one!

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    You are killing those pull-ups and chin-ups Luna.
    Gotta love the magic oats.
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    very solid upper body session, looks like you have everything covered
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    You are killing those pull-ups and chin-ups Luna.
    Gotta love the magic oats.
    Quote Originally Posted by StLRPh View Post
    very solid upper body session, looks like you have everything covered
    Thanks guys, i think the fact that i am actually enjoying these sessions makes a big difference.

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    Good job on the upper body session, you picked some solid movements.
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    Pullups, dips and chins - the stuff arms are made of!
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