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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Who wants to participate in these contests?

    G'day Guys and Gals,

    I realise we have a contest forum already but no one seems to visit in there and I think some challenges would be good fun for the community.
    Some ideas for events:

    Here are some of my ideas, maybe they could be combined to form a sort of triathlon like bearwolf and sensei had a while ago?

    Max OHSQ or Max number of reps with %BW overhead squat.

    Most weight snatched (or power snatched maybe) with one arm.

    Highest box jump.

    Most BW Squats (e.g. I would squat with 200lbs)

    Funniest joke? (this could be decided by a set of judges or poll)

    Coolest skill, like a party trick. (again decided by a set of judges or poll)

    Longest hold of X amount of weight.
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    hold 405lbs for X seconds. (could be more, this is a lot of weight for me but probably not a lot of other members on the board :P) would only need to be lifted from high rack pull so simply a test of grip strength.
    OR
    Largest amount of weight held for 30 seconds.
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    Sounds good to me.
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    I think the 1-armed power snatch / box jump / greatest amount of weight held for 30 seconds would be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomv View Post
    I think the 1-armed power snatch / box jump / greatest amount of weight held for 30 seconds would be interesting.
    all in one move as well




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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCorey75 View Post
    all in one move as well




    awesome
    So a power snatch while jumping onto a high box, while static holding 800lbs? Sounds good to me
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    haha super keen ay boys?

    But seriously as a competition for 3 SEPERATE MOVEMENTS or even 3 seperate competitions how does it sound?
    I tried to think of competitions where there wouldn't necessarily be any clear winners to be picked.
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    Here are my ideas from another thread:
    *1 mile 100lb bag/object/dummy carry (without straps would make this a lot more interesting to me) for time
    *double bodyweight squat contest for reps
    *most reps with 225 squat & pull-ups in 15 minutes (can break it up in as many or as few sets as you'd like ala "EDT")

    I don't know how well I'd do on these events anytime soon, but if we had the rest of 2009, I could probably post something not too embarrassing for each.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    Here are my ideas from another thread:
    *1 mile 100lb bag/object/dummy carry (without straps would make this a lot more interesting to me) for time
    *double bodyweight squat contest for reps
    *most reps with 225 squat & pull-ups in 15 minutes (can break it up in as many or as few sets as you'd like ala "EDT")

    I don't know how well I'd do on these events anytime soon, but if we had the rest of 2009, I could probably post something not too embarrassing for each.
    Looks good. I don't think I'll be doing any double body weigh squats for reps though. I weight 225 and can only squat about 375
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    I sure as hell couldn't do the 2xBW squats and I think the other squat contest would make me it's bitch, though I might be a bit more competitive with the addition of the pullups.

    the 100lb carry sounds very interesting. Would it just have to be a backpack or bag? Could it be something with handles?
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    I like the 1 mile run Sensei. 100lb without straps definitely. Sandbag would be awesome!

    It actually pisses me right off seeing these educational sandbag workout videos on youtube with sandbags that have straps or handles on them for lifting.

    If that is what you were referring to or maybe it was just ruck sacks.

    I think a 1 mile run with a 100lb sandbag in the zercher position would be awesome. Would totally annihilate you!

    I am really tempted to set up another challenge again like the last one I did!
    after my workout today with 110lb sandbag thrusters I might focus around something like that!

    maybe.....

    • 110lb sandbag/barbell thruster for reps without dropping weight.
    • Max pressups with 0.5 x BW on back (1 minute time limit)
    • Max Barbell Military Press x 1 rep (rack or clean)
    Last edited by Goodwinm; 06-08-2009 at 08:04 AM.
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    How about:

    3 rounds for time of...

    * 800 meter run
    * 10 body weight deadlifts
    * 10 box jumps (28")
    * 5 tire flips



    OR


    WOD: "One Bar of Death"

    10 rounds of each for time...

    10 deadlift (135lbs-M / 85lbs - F)
    10 push press (135lbs - M / 85lbs - F)
    10 overhead squat (135lbs - M / 85lbs - F)

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Loving it chub. I really am man.

    One Bar of Death!

    How on earth would you get the bar above the head after all those push presses?!
    That must take ages seriously.
    What's your best time on it?
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    I think that looks a bit too much like Crossfit for most board members to jump at Chub but they look good to me haha.

    1st WOD, how could you make sure everyone was using the same tyre?

    One bar of death sounds painful, I'm not sure I could do 10x10 at 60kg OHSquat just yet haha.
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    Good- Haha I've never been able to do it as prescribed. Until recently I didn't have the OHS ability to work with the prescribed weight.

    Tom- Yea, you're right. It might not garner the attention of too many people. As for the tire, you could always up the weight on the DLs and take it out to 15 reps. Because our gym is made up of a lot of .mil, LEOs and SF guys, we end up doing a lot of different things for our workouts. We've run some really good ones in the past, but we also have access to a wider range of equipment than most (many tires, sledgehammers, climbing ropes, bumper plates etc etc).

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    If y'all think you want to do a team workout, we've had some pretty good ones with that. We've done 2 and 3 man teams, so if that's something that interests y'all, LMK. I'm sure everybody could find a teammate to work with.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Yeah I've got a similar crowd for my box Chub, head coach is ex-SF and there are a few other army guys training as well.

    I'll post up pics of our tyre flipping WOD on the coming Sunday haha.
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    100 kilo challenge

    Most reps with 100 kilos in:

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    OH Press (can be push press) (must be cleaned)
    Bench Press
    Deadlift
    Rows (back at or as near parallel as possible)
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    Your best lift out of three attempts in:
    squat
    bench
    deadlift

    in that order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reko View Post
    Your best lift out of three attempts in:
    squat
    bench
    deadlift

    in that order.
    That seems familiar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomv View Post
    the 100lb carry sounds very interesting. Would it just have to be a backpack or bag? Could it be something with handles?
    Handles would kind of defeat the purpose - might as well be a farmers walk of some sort if you had them.
    I was thinking a sandbag, or rock, or ruck (not carried by handles or straps). Less rules the better - no handles and as soon as it touches the ground you're done. Best distance or time (if completed) wins.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    Handles would kind of defeat the purpose - might as well be a farmers walk of some sort if you had them.
    I was thinking a sandbag, or rock, or ruck (not carried by handles or straps). Less rules the better - no handles and as soon as it touches the ground you're done. Best distance or time (if completed) wins.
    I'll second that. Bear-hugging or Shouldering for the win!

    Just pick up the object and squat/run/press until you can do no more. Drop the weight and that's your score.

    That also rhymes.
    Last edited by Goodwinm; 06-08-2009 at 02:40 PM.
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    Max OHSQ or Max number of reps with %BW overhead squat.

    Most weight snatched (or power snatched maybe) with one arm.

    Highest box jump.

    Most BW Squats (e.g. I would squat with 200lbs)

    Longest hold of X amount of weight.
    I like any/all of these. Instead of BW squats, though I'd make it something like 1.5 x BW and I'd set the longest hold of X weight at something standard, like 100lb DB's or something.
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    I'd beat you all at everything. No need for me to participate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reko View Post
    Your best lift out of three attempts in:
    squat
    bench
    deadlift

    in that order.
    Jackass haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guido View Post
    I like any/all of these. Instead of BW squats, though I'd make it something like 1.5 x BW and I'd set the longest hold of X weight at something standard, like 100lb DB's or something.
    Haha yeah 1.5BW is fine.. if you can squat that much . I think I could squeak bout... 1 rep?
    Last edited by tomv; 06-08-2009 at 06:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomv View Post
    G'day Guys and Gals,
    Longest hold of X amount of weight.
    OR
    hold 405lbs for X seconds. (could be more, this is a lot of weight for me but probably not a lot of other members on the board :P) would only need to be lifted from high rack pull so simply a test of grip strength.
    OR
    Largest amount of weight held for 30 seconds.
    i have actually thought of posting something like this before. i was at the gym last tuesday and after a heavy squat session decided to throw 225 on the bar and just see how long i could hold it. 32 seconds is what i got. i think it would be fun to see what times other people could put up with various weights too. just a suggestion but how about having different weight amounts based on what your max deadlift is? obviously someone who deadlifts 600 pounds is going to hold 225 for much longer than i can. but maybe my time would be more competitive with others whose max DL is close to mine. either way, im IN!
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