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    Overhead Press

    Does anyone have a video with the correct form of the Overhead press?
    The same as the one in SS.
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    Rip recently produced a dvd series detailing the coaching of all the lifts in SS. It's ridiculously cheap, something on the range of $20.

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    didn't know you could use some hip drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalami View Post
    I just give the worked on muscle group tough riddles before my workouts... or sometimes I'll tell them we're going to the park and then go to the gym, or visa versa. They start to catch on so you have to tell the truth every so often.
    *While on the topic of muscle confusion, and how often a routine needs to be changed.*

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    Oops. I've always used a little leg drive on the last few reps.

    On a side note...I hate when people do pullups like the guys in the background do. It's no different than swinging up the weight with your back while curling to me.
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    its called kipping, apparently thats the main type of pullups used in crossfit training (from what i've read). i don't like it either, i think strict pull-ups with knees up, or dead hang is MUCH better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalami View Post
    I just give the worked on muscle group tough riddles before my workouts... or sometimes I'll tell them we're going to the park and then go to the gym, or visa versa. They start to catch on so you have to tell the truth every so often.
    *While on the topic of muscle confusion, and how often a routine needs to be changed.*

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    I love the overhead press. Nothing more manlier!

    Oh actually yes there is.

    Squatting into an overhead press!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmagnuss View Post
    On a side note...I hate when people do pullups like the guys in the background do. It's no different than swinging up the weight with your back while curling to me.
    i like it even more when you ask someone how many pullups they can do and they rattle off some absurd number.

    weighted chins > kipped chins

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    Quote Originally Posted by twm View Post
    i like it even more when you ask someone how many pullups they can do and they rattle off some absurd number.

    weighted chins > kipped chins
    lol yeah my mate used to say he could do thousands of pushups
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    Quote Originally Posted by twm View Post
    i like it even more when you ask someone how many pullups they can do and they rattle off some absurd number.

    weighted chins > kipped chins
    Yeah kinda how guys claim these huge bench numbers and its only because they have a 5 inch ROM.
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    I think the average person would die on some of the CF workouts if they didnt kip their pullups.
    Like 7 sets of 12 pullups after 400m sprints and dead lifts or something...wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua_P View Post
    I think the average person would die on some of the CF workouts if they didnt kip their pullups.
    Like 7 sets of 12 pullups after 400m sprints and dead lifts or something...wow
    Indeed. Kipping is a valid technique, when used to get the most out of one's workouts and not just to make it easier.

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    Kipping is a word Crossfit invented for cheating on pullups. It's no more or less valid than throwing your back into a barbell curl, or hip-humping a row.
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    Thanks for the great answers guys!

    BTW, should you use a bit of leg drive for the OH Press?
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    I suggest leaning back somewhat and using VERY SLIGHT hip/leg drive. If you don't lean back at all it can be hell on your shoulders. Also Mark Rippetoe is pretty anal when it comes to form so feel free to use something a lot more "loose". I think throwing your entire body forward under the bar so your head is sticking way forward as shown in the video is unnecessary. He tends to turn everything into some incredibly complicated olympic lift that needs to be "instructed" -- at the end of the day you are just pushing a bar over your head dude.
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    i was watching a guy doing a bent over barbell row the other day, and he was kinda jumping slightly up and down as he did it. Looked like hell on the joints, i mean he was really really jumping up and down, not high but very quickly only lifting the weight a little bit but not letting it go down all the way, this created a big jerking motion as it went down that made my shoulders hurt just looking at it. I brought it up to my brother whos played college and high school football and he seemed to know what it was the guy was doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalami View Post
    i was watching a guy doing a bent over barbell row the other day, and he was kinda jumping slightly up and down as he did it. Looked like hell on the joints, i mean he was really really jumping up and down, not high but very quickly only lifting the weight a little bit but not letting it go down all the way, this created a big jerking motion as it went down that made my shoulders hurt just looking at it. I brought it up to my brother whos played college and high school football and he seemed to know what it was the guy was doing.
    Sounds like he was doing some weighted shrugs, usually from a box. Its supposed to mimic the intial explosive portion of a clean (i.e. olympic lift)
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    When I do OHP, I try not to use any leg drive. Push the bar right past my face while my head is pulled back and then finish with the bar directly in line with the back of my head.

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    Or, you can utilize leg/hip drive, then it's called a push press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGROK View Post
    Kipping is a word Crossfit invented for cheating on pullups. It's no more or less valid than throwing your back into a barbell curl, or hip-humping a row.
    No, kipping is a technique used in gymnastics that Crossfit borrowed and utilized for high rep pullups for metabolic conditioning.

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    kipping is good for developing explosive lats and legs to some degree. Humping biceps curls is good for nothing. While I would not recommend kipping for hypertrophy, again its decent for explosiveness, here is a vid of konstantinov (one of the best, arguably THE best deadlifter in the world) doing kipping pullups: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boLl8...eature=related

    As for OH press, I like how vincent dizenzo presses, just an alternative: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzjxD...om=PL&index=30
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    opinions on behind the head OHP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auburn View Post
    No, kipping is a technique used in gymnastics that Crossfit borrowed and utilized for high rep pullups for metabolic conditioning.
    Kipping on Pull ups equals cheating, no way around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimum08 View Post
    opinions on behind the head OHP?
    Can't remember too well, but I think I heard that these could give you shoulder problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skalami View Post
    I just give the worked on muscle group tough riddles before my workouts... or sometimes I'll tell them we're going to the park and then go to the gym, or visa versa. They start to catch on so you have to tell the truth every so often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimum08 View Post
    opinions on behind the head OHP?
    Yeah...don't do that.
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