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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Bench Seminar...............

    Pauk Key (Bencher8) and I will be hosting a bench seminar at my private gym sometime in August we will have the date set in stone in the next day or so. We are going to limit the number of participants to 30 people.

    Seminar will cover shirted benching. Including how to adjust them to get the most out of them and the dirty little tricks we both have up our sleeves, training techniques, assitance exercises, set up, setting up a training program, and a lot of hands on work with each person in attendence.

    Cost of the seminar will be $65.00 per person.

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    Date : Sunday August 2nd, 2009 starting at 10:00 AM Sharp!
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    If you are in the area and don't go you are nuts. Rob and Paul could easily charge twice as much and fill up. Best of luck with it Rob. I wish I was within driving distance.
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    I cant wait to do this. I really enjoy working with individuals and passing on what knowledge I have gotten through the years. I appreciate the opportunity to help Rob with this.

    Everyone knows what Rob has done in this sport. I 'm stoked to work with him on this.

    I think the price is well worth it as well. Equipment prices can be high, but spending 65 bucks to learn how to use the equipment might be the best investment a lifter can do...jmho
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    PLEASE for the love of GOD have someone film!! I'll happily spend over $40 for a DVD, like I have with all the ST and WS, EFS etc. Ones. I know it can be pain in the ass, but just having a stand in guy with a camera and a tripod would be cool.

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    DVD of the seminar please

    Quote Originally Posted by Risk10k View Post
    PLEASE for the love of GOD have someone film!! I'll happily spend over $40 for a DVD, like I have with all the ST and WS, EFS etc. Ones. I know it can be pain in the ass, but just having a stand in guy with a camera and a tripod would be cool.
    I second this, I would love to buy the DVD and would purchase asap.
    This would be really good for people all around the world, I hope it's possible.

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    Also I would be happy with just getting the disc (no fancy cover or anything).

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    I will definitely plan on going once you set a date...
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    Awesome stuff guys!


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    Paul and Rob,

    First, I think the seminar is an EXCELLENT idea as learning about shirts (all aspects) is not easy. I personally would be very interested in the information.

    Second, I agree that you guys should see if you can get someone local to film and edit a DVD which you could sell. I bet you could sell quite a few of them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chris mason View Post
    Paul and Rob,

    First, I think the seminar is an EXCELLENT idea as learning about shirts (all aspects) is not easy. I personally would be very interested in the information.

    Second, I agree that you guys should see if you can get someone local to film and edit a DVD which you could sell. I bet you could sell quite a few of them.
    Im buying a copy...
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    I'll be there fer sure. I'm hoping 'old dogs' can learn new tricks.
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    I can see it now--Paul will bring every kind of jump stretch band known to mankind, Rob will get pissed and tell Paul to shove the bands up his ass, and then they throw down in Rob's yard. LOL All kidding aside, this will be a great seminar.

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    Hmm, I'd love to go to this. Any idea when in August though? Some of my weekends are already full :-/
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    I don't necessarily agree with dvd's. A lot of people buy them and think they don't need the hands on advice. The best part of a seminar is being able to work hands on with a lifter. Rhodes and I literally manipulate the body positions and equipment of the lifters at seminars. This is what I see done at all of the powerlifting seminars I have attended. I'm sure Rob's and Paul's will be no different.

    For those of you who can't get to a seminar, get a hold of a lifter you'd like to present. You can work out a deal with the lifter and a gym to host. Just make sure the lifter can give a seminar. Just because someone knows how to lift does not mean he knows how to coach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Smith View Post
    I can see it now--Paul will bring every kind of jump stretch band known to mankind, Rob will get pissed and tell Paul to shove the bands up his ass, and then they throw down in Rob's yard. LOL All kidding aside, this will be a great seminar.

    You know this thought had already came to my mind after Paul and I agreed on working together. Outside the gym he is one of my best friends but inside the gym and on the platform we love to hate each other. Seriously we have two diferent aproaches to training that will give lifters a lot more knowledge.

    As for the DVD thing I will talk about it with Paul but I tend to agree with Vincent its hard to learn watching TV. As for Seminars This will be the first of many to come if Paul and I don't kill each other. And we come to you if there is enough interest.

    I will have a set date later tonight.

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    I can see I will be carrying the load on this one. Bencher8 was suposed to announce the date and time last night but his attention span isn't much longer then my son who is 4 at times. LOL! I editied the original post with the date and time.

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    bump. Going to be a good chance to see me and Bencher8 go head to head in back yard cage match..............

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    seminars are the way to go. So much better than a dvd. If any of you can make it you should.
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    OK, my internet company had me down for 3 days, but I am back on now. Sorry about being off Rob, as I can see, I should have done the announcing cause you cant spell for nothing lol...and no I didnt post that on outlaws, but it was funny lol

    I thought the idea for a DVD would be a good idea, but after thinking about it, like Vinnie says, you really want the hands on approach. Its just too hard to convey what you want the lifter to do watching a video. Like Rob said we are willing to travel to do more of these seminars, if there is enough interest to make it worth while.

    I think Rob and mine training styles are different enough to provide a lot of different approaches to gaining strength. These different approaches will allow the seminar attendees access to a lot of knowledge, more so than in some seminars with only one way to teach or approach training from one lifter. This is what I think sets our seminars apart from some others...
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    I think the only thing you guys agree on is hair styles. LOL. Should make for an interesting seminar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdizenzo View Post
    Just because someone knows how to lift does not mean he knows how to coach.
    Very true!

    I don't know much about lifting, but we do lots of seminars for equestrian sports. Having the session on a DVD is a great idea, but the folks that should be getting the DVDs are the ones that attend the seminar. It allows the attendees to reinforce what they learn at the seminar by refreshing their memory with the DVD. Seminars are often sensory overload - there is so much information given in such a short time that things are forgotten. The DVD helps you remember.

    $65 per person for this seminar is a freakin' steal. I will not tell you what some of our seminars cost because I don't want give you guys any ideas!

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    "$65 per person for this seminar is a freakin' steal. I will not tell you what some of our seminars cost because I don't want give you guys any ideas!"

    I know what most people charge for seminars. We aren't looking to get rich just enough to make it worth our while. After all I am bringing the thest lift off man in the game to help me run this and he lives in Tn.

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    Would love to se you guys at Ironsport in Philly. PLENTY of interest there. Im putting it on my my christmas list

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    Any plans on doing another one? August 2nd doesn't work for me but I'd definitely be up for doing one sometime if you do it again (especially since I have close family in Dixon, so right close).
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    Rob and I have talked about doing more of these seminars and we would be up for it if there is enough interest....
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