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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Noob question on weight training

    First of all I apologise for this noob question.

    A friend and I started training together 3 months ago. Neither of us know much about weight training.

    He claims that you should stop once you are unable to complete another rep by yourself. I prefer to get him to spot me 3 reps after fail (particularly on the 3rd and 4th sets). I secretly think I'm getting better results, but not sure.

    Anyone got a view on this?

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    "To failure training" is not necissary and can be a bad thing if you use it too much or too frequently. It's harder on the CNS. I prefer your freind's method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    "To failure training" is not necissary and can be a bad thing if you use it too much or too frequently. It's harder on the CNS. I prefer your freind's method.
    I also have a question about "To failure training", is it beneficial once-in-a-while.

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    It's one of those things where it depends on the person. Some can handle it and some can't. But since it isn't necassary [for anybody] for optimal gains, why risk it? Just work hard and keep it a rep short of failure and you can't go wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Off Road View Post
    It's one of those things where it depends on the person. Some can handle it and some can't. But since it isn't necassary [for anybody] for optimal gains, why risk it? Just work hard and keep it a rep short of failure and you can't go wrong.
    True. So basically, if its not broken, don't try and fix it.

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    OP, you have been working out for 3 months. If you cant get another rep by yourself then thats it. Get that extra rep or the extra lbs the next time. Dont have your friend lift it for you. 3 assisted reps? Kidding yourself.

    1 forced rep? or a dropset... maybe, depending on your goals.

    ''its all you bro''.............. horse****!!

    Get away from this and do everything for yourself. Worth it in the long run IMHO.
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    3 months into lifting, follow what your friend is doing. You aren't getting secretly stronger by doing 3 assisted reps.

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    Thanks guys, I appreciate the advice. I've stopped doing assisted reps, and am just focussing on form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getstronger View Post
    First of all I apologise for this noob question.

    A friend and I started training together 3 months ago. Neither of us know much about weight training.

    He claims that you should stop once you are unable to complete another rep by yourself. I prefer to get him to spot me 3 reps after fail (particularly on the 3rd and 4th sets). I secretly think I'm getting better results, but not sure.

    Anyone got a view on this?
    You're friend is right. Too much fatigue can be detrimental.

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