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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by bojackson View Post
    good work Hopp. i hate zerchers and prefer front squats much more. although ive never used a zercher harness. ive only done them the old school way. and yes, rex at NGBB is a big dude. saw him squat over 700 raw at the alabama meet and DL over 700 as well. good luck...
    I've only done them the old school way also. It's more painful trying to hold onto the bar. My best zercher squat is 640 of a box with a cambared bar. IMO, it didn't help my deadlift or squat. If I had a harness I would probably do them. Yeah, I saw the videos of his lifts from that meet, pretty impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickAus View Post
    Last lower day was great Tank!!

    Interested to see how you do with the sumo speed pulls, should help your con pull as well.
    Thanks Nick, I was feeling pretty good so I took advantage of it. But let me say that today I am pretty sore. Next week I will start doing speed against bands like I use to and I'm going to mix it up with sumo and conventional.
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    Nice work Brian! How do you like the sumo pulls compared to conventional pulls? I like pulling both ways, and seem to be even in strength for the most part with both stances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muscle_g View Post
    Nice work Brian! How do you like the sumo pulls compared to conventional pulls? I like pulling both ways, and seem to be even in strength for the most part with both stances.
    I like pulling both ways, but I'm much stronger pulling conventional. I haven't really pulled sumo that much to make it stronger. But I might try and work on that. The most I have pulled sumo was 545 raw and I pulled 635 raw conventional about 8 weeks ago. I will try and get my raw sumo up some. I have been thinking about getting a Metal King sumo DL suit to have and play around in.
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    nice work Hopp. Yeah I'm trying to mix sumo in there as well. It has seemed to make my conv. stronger in the past, any way.
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    Thanks Tim!!!! At this point I'll do anything to help my deadlift.
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    Training is looking really good.. I find that building my sumo helps my conventional a fair amount. I am pulling heavy sumo every other week and like it. My strength is pretty close though, maybe 15-20lbs stronger convetional.
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    Thanks SELK, I'm gonna work on it for a while and see how it works out for me.
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    Damn those numbers are climbing quick. Almost like it never happened. Way to go. Way to come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hopper View Post
    Thanks Nick, I was feeling pretty good so I took advantage of it. But let me say that today I am pretty sore. Next week I will start doing speed against bands like I use to and I'm going to mix it up with sumo and conventional.
    I really think the sumo work will help your comp deadlift as I have heard others have done well doing both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george okunev View Post
    Damn those numbers are climbing quick. Almost like it never happened. Way to go. Way to come back.
    Thanks alot George!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickAus View Post
    I really think the sumo work will help your comp deadlift as I have heard others have done well doing both.

    Good things to come Tank!!
    I've heard the same from other lifters as well, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens!!!!
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    Done....I decided to do some reverse band sumo deadlifts, for the second time ever. I beleive the first time I did them the band was hanging from the top of the rack, and I was pulling in a Inzer MaxDL. That was probably about 2 years ago, and I think I pulled 635. Today, the bands were hanging about 65" from the floor, and I pulled it raw. I'm starting to like pulling sumo. On Thursday when I do my speed work, I'm gonna set it up in the power rack so I can do sumo and conventional against bands. I hate doing GM's with the SSB, but I feel it working my back pretty good so hopefully it will show in the long run.

    My last set of 655 was for Nick since I got the idea from him, and i'm glad I got it since it was a PR!!!!!!!!!
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    Nice work on the PR. The SSB GMs are brutal.
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    Nice job Bri. Pulling sumo raw is hard. Hurts like hell. I'm stronger conventional raw but I destroy my conventional with sumo geared up. Doing both will get your way stronger as well as giving your hips or back a break depending on which you're doing. Good luck with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusWild View Post
    Nice work on the PR. The SSB GMs are brutal.
    Thanks Marcus, they are brutal that's for sure!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbaccio View Post
    Nice job Bri. Pulling sumo raw is hard. Hurts like hell. I'm stronger conventional raw but I destroy my conventional with sumo geared up. Doing both will get your way stronger as well as giving your hips or back a break depending on which you're doing. Good luck with it!
    Thanks Tone, I was going to add a pair of single ply briefs but I'm thinking about doing a meet raw in September. Until I decide wether or not I'm going to do it, most of my training will be raw.
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    Impressive pulling work Brian.

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    Huge bro!!

    You have the sore hand and all plus only your second time!!

    Looks like I'm going to have to go for a max on it Sunday but I only have greens, I will set it up so the bar comes out of bands at lock-out.

    Once again well done on the PR!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoCoa View Post
    Impressive pulling work Brian.
    Thanks Coke!!!
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    Looking really strong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickAus View Post
    Huge bro!!

    You have the sore hand and all plus only your second time!!

    Looks like I'm going to have to go for a max on it Sunday but I only have greens, I will set it up so the bar comes out of bands at lock-out.

    Once again well done on the PR!!
    Thanks Nick!!! My hand is a little sore, and I'm surprised I had the grip strentgh to hold onto the bar. Because that last set was very hard for me. We have green bands also but we always pull with blues. I'm going to try again in about 4-5 weeks and see how I do. Thanks again!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by muscle_g View Post
    Looking really strong!
    Thanks!!!
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    I am going to place an order for some blues and some micros at some stage (maybe some nice family member can buy me them for my birthday ha ha).

    Pleased you did so well off the bat first max pull since coming back, and yeah sounds like your grip is really not an issue.

    Onwards and upwards now bro!!
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    Thanks again Nick, it did feel good to put up a PR after what I've been through these past few months. I'm looking forward to doing speed bench with chains tomorrow and some speed squats and pulls on Thursday against bands
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