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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Senior Member ZenFitness's Avatar
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    I like my weight, want more muscle size

    I'm almost 6'3" and right at 200 lbs. I've cut off about 30 - 35 lbs. over the past year to hit this target weight. I don't want to get skinnier, and I don't want to gain fat again. I do want to start loading on muscle.

    I assume muscle means more weight... but I'm not sure about diet here. I'm concerned if I start up a 3000+ calorie/day diet that I'll start putting fat back on. I'd like to build muscle at this point and not necessarily simply size.

    Is there a way around this? Or do I just need to get the cals up? What if I were to just add protein drinks 2X a day, etc... I usually hit about a 2000 cal/day diet as it stands.

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    You can't load on muscle without gaining fat. That's the nature of gaining mass. After you gain some decent muscle on a bulk, you'll want to cut the fat off yet again to reveal your hard-earned muscle. Bulk/Cut/Bulk/Cut... it's a cycle. You can try and gain minimal fat by having a meticulous diet, but fat still comes along for the ride. What are you eating right now?
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    If you've lost the weight before you can do it again. Bulk cleanly and slowly, and you'll put on minimal fat gains. With a good diet and regular training regimen losing weight is easy.
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    thx all

    I basically eat like this (I don't eat "meat" except seafood):

    Breakfast:
    1 Egg
    Jalepenos
    2 Corn tortillas
    1 cup low fat (2%) yogurt with granola
    Toast with peanut butter

    Mid morning:
    1 packet Kashi oatmeal

    Lunch:
    Usually leftovers, maybe that means salmon, rice, broccoli, etc.

    Mid afternoon:
    Apple

    Dinner:
    Usually seafood or some form of tofu stir fry with rice, maybe a pasta/veggie dish

    Now I realize this is not a powerlifting diet... but I am open to suggestions. I've thought about adding protein shakes 2X a day.

    I don't care if I'm that "freaking HUGE" guy, but I do want to be strong, fit, and look the part. I want strength to gain more than anything, and then physique a close second.
    Last edited by ZenFitness; 07-16-2009 at 02:01 PM.

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    I eat more protein than that by 10am bro. Are you some kind of vegetarian? Eggs and fish are ok but meat/chicken isn't?

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    Yeah, you're going to have to get way more protein and make sure to do light rep sets.
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    Yep I'm roughly a vegetarian except for the seafood. That's a separate story though. But yes, eggs and seafood okay, pork, red meat, chicken, etc., not.

    Boeckel, light rep sets - light in number of reps or light in terms of weight?

    Lastly, I'm thinking more on the calorie end of things, that is, keeping calories lower but adding protein... I can add protein via shakes, etc. Is that good/bad/etc.? I've never considered diet before now in terms of lifting.
    Last edited by ZenFitness; 07-17-2009 at 11:41 AM.

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    Boeckel, light rep sets - light in number of reps or light in terms of weight?
    Ignore what he said, he's wrong. Lift heavy, lift hard. And again... you can't gain more muscle without gaining weight. You can recomp your body, but this can only take you so far. You gotta eat man. If you wanna see minimal fat gains, you gotta bulk clean and slow.

    I've never considered diet before now in terms of lifting.
    This is crucial.

    And yeah... find a way to up your protein intake, bro.
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    Yes I am definitely not opposed to gaining weight. I just don't want to gain fat weight or at least minimize that as much as possible. I want to gain muscle and BE muscle - i.e. low body fat %, etc.

    So if I increase the protein, that should at least be a start. Are protein powder shakes, etc., good for this or should it be the old fashioned way (i.e. food)?

    And thanks for the help.

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    You should always make good ol' food a priority... but getting a quality protein shake into your diet is a helpful way to reach your goals. http://atlargenutrition.com/nutritio...?products_id=1

    Have you read any of the Diet stickies yet? They contain some helpful information.


    Yes I am definitely not opposed to gaining weight. I just don't want to gain fat weight or at least minimize that as much as possible.
    You're going to gain fat regardless. If you gained only muscle, you'd have the best genetics in the world. But if you watch your diet, you can minimize fat gains. We all gain some fat on a bulk... then diet and get cut up to show off our hard work.
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    Hey thanks again... yes, I looked thru the stickies, but nothing about the powder jumped out at me. Thanks for the link!

    Is Nitrean your powder of choice?
    Last edited by ZenFitness; 07-17-2009 at 02:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenFitness View Post
    Is Nitrean your powder of choice?
    On occasion, yes. It mixes well and has a lot of protein.

    I also use this stuff. http://sportprotein.com/
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    eat big to get big man, lots of chicken, lots of fish, lots of beef, pork and all that, get good quality foods eat all of the food, dont cut off the fat ur body needs the fat, limit carbs to morning and peri workout to help stave off excess fat gain, let lots of leafy green veggies as well as fruits and keep your carbs to whole grain oatmeal, potatoes and brown rice if u must
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    ^^

    Yeah... basically... eat like a caveman.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCorey75 View Post
    limit carbs to morning and peri workout to help stave off excess fat gain
    what do you do on non workout days, just have carbs in the morning?

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