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    Do you count the weight of the bar?

    When somebody asks How Much Do You Bench? Are you supposed to be adding the weight from the weighted bar? Because I'm 15 years old and it turns out I bench 95 lbs instead of 50 like I assumed.
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    Of course you do. If you used a 100 pound bar next time and could only do 10 pounds on each side, would you think you got weaker? Of course not.

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    Yes, most definitely. The typical bar at most gyms is 45 pounds. Many Zbars are 35.
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    Not liek anybody would ask you this, but if you do barbell curls (or any other exercise with a bar), would you also count the bar's weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2ThaJoyal View Post
    Not liek anybody would ask you this, but if you do barbell curls (or any other exercise with a bar), would you also count the bar's weight?
    If you lift it - count it

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    Obviously counting the bar and even clips makes sense.

    Here is one I have always wondered though. When doing calf raises are you guys counting your body weight as well as the bar and the weight on it?
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    Haha I never counted the weight of the bar for a long time either. It wasn't until I started lifting with a couple of high school buddies that I started counting the weight of the bar.
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    yeah its just a physch thing, 50punds + bar, or 95 punds its still the same wieght but 95 punds looks cooler haha

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    Then I feel humiliated for my sig, haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2ThaJoyal View Post
    Then I feel humiliated for my sig, haha
    Just subtract 45 lbs from your bodyweight in the sig and then your lifts don't look as bad.
    Last edited by sayagain; 08-18-2009 at 08:12 PM.

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    Yeah man I am also 15 and was also not counting the weight of the bar. Sure made my lifts look like crap, just be happy these dudes are here to inform you, sure makes your lifts look better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T FLEX View Post
    Obviously counting the bar and even clips makes sense.

    Here is one I have always wondered though. When doing calf raises are you guys counting your body weight as well as the bar and the weight on it?
    body weight not counted for any exercise but it does come into play for calves, squats, pull up and dips. Alas, not counted

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    For bodyweight exercises, it's always nice to know the person's actual bodyweight, so include it.

    Something like...I did 8 strict pullups at a BW of 240 lbs.

    Simply because there is a difference between a 240 lber doing 8 pullups and a 150 lber doing 8 pullups.
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    I've never counted the bar. Now I'm wondering if I should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VESPER View Post
    I've never counted the bar. Now I'm wondering if I should.
    yes.

    you count the whole dumbbell don't you?

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    1 plate on each side of the bar = 135. 1 plate = 45 pounds.

    Personally I've never learned it any other way.

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