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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    First time in a shirt

    I started training WSBB roughly 2 months ago and my numbers have been going up like crazy. Keep in mind that my raw bench is probably around 325 right now.

    So I put my Inzer Rage on today for the first time. It went really well. Hit 365 off of a 2 board. Then I touched 405, but I could not get a full lockout. A couple things happened. First, I ran out of breath on the way down, it just took so long to touch that I had to re-inhale, which kind of threw me off. Second, ended up with what I have read is usual burst blood vessels around the chest, but the funny thing is that I ended up with some of that on my gut also! Third, the pain is amazing, it really does not bother me, but it does feel as though someone is going to kill you with a giant bear hug. Overall the shirt felt pretty good, there was some tearing noises as I got low to the chest because the shirt is extremely tight. I feel as though I really understand the motion of the shirt. I hope to be able to get roughly 100lbs out of the shirt by the time I have a competition in 8 weeks. Overall though, for a first time in a shirt, touching with 80lbs over max is pretty good, right?

    I would like to cut off roughly 2 inches from the sleeves because they are just too long and bunching up on my short arms, any suggestions. Will it fray? Do I need to get it sown?

    Any other feedback or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    Have a seamstress cut and re-hem the sleeves for you. Keep in mind that when it's cut you have to leave room for the hem.

    For breathing, take several full deep breaths before you take the weight. When you take the weight, hold it at lockout until it's settled from the handoff. During that time take one last deep breath. Don't breath again until you complete the lift to lockout.
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    Try folding the sleeve over the length you need before you go cutting it.


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    I prefer the folding like Vinnie said. When you cut and inch or two off you lose some of the taper at the end and will have a looser sleeve. Folding lets you keep that. As long as your fed let's you fold them, I would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermonster View Post
    I prefer the folding like Vinnie said. When you cut and inch or two off you lose some of the taper at the end and will have a looser sleeve. Folding lets you keep that. As long as your fed let's you fold them, I would.

    What feds allow you to fold the sleeve over??
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    I have never competed in a fed that didn't allow it. Sounds like a USAPL rule.


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    Yep sounds like you are a fast learner, well done!
    Once you get used to shirt benching and have the shirt pretty tight you will no doubt get much more than 100lbs out of it.
    Time to build a strong lock-out.
    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdizenzo View Post
    I have never competed in a fed that didn't allow it. Sounds like a USAPL rule.
    WABDL won't let you fold them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryano View Post
    WABDL won't let you fold them.
    Enough said WABL............ LOL! They won't let you wear an open back shirt either so why waste your time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Luyando View Post
    Enough said WABL............ LOL! They won't let you wear an open back shirt either so why waste your time
    What he said!


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    Any more ideas...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdizenzo View Post
    I have never competed in a fed that didn't allow it. Sounds like a USAPL rule.
    I was just wondering, because a guy I train with was getting ready to bench and he heard a side spotter asking if it was ok to have his sleeves folded. This was at the WPC Worlds last year.
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    monk,

    Yes, 80+ lbs. first time in a shirt is good! I cant believe you touched your first time though... Its best to work it down the boards... Maybe the shirts not as tight as you think, B/c it took me (4) weeks to touch in my Katana.

    As far as lock-out time for some major tricep work (ie, board-press, floor press, JM press, etc.)
    Good luck bro!

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    Thanks Rob, I don't know how this thread became about rolling someone's sleeves down. All the guys I wanted to post are posting about sleeve placement! Please feel free to also give me some direction!

    Any ways, I knew that touching was going to be a bitch. So I just went to town and pulled it down. It hurt and I guess I knew it would and I knew where I wanted the bar, so it was really more an issue of tenacity than anything else. And I have the bruises to show it. The shirt is definitely tight enough, we could barely get it on me. But I knew roughly what I was going to need on the bar to get it down, so I just went for it. Just couldn't seem to get it back up
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    [QUOTE=monk2in1;2195051]Thanks Rob, I don't know how this thread became about rolling someone's sleeves down. All the guys I wanted to post are posting about sleeve placement! Please feel free to also give me some direction!

    Apart from the sleeves what was your question?
    What are you asking?
    From what I read you did well for your first time, you missed at the top so apart from getting better in the shirt you will need a stronger lock-out.
    Most people miss near the top in a shirt that's why everyone does boards/lock-outs/tricep work.
    If you miss around chest level it is either to heavy or a technical problem eg: not keeping elbows under bar, touching to high/low etc.

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