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    Does self-help material really work?

    Do any of you believe in self-help material/books like in the vain of Tony Robbins, The Secret, etc, and has any of it ever worked for you?


    Just curious.

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    You know, I think it probably does work, although I think a person with the right personality will be able to be just as successful without it. I can't believe how many different self help books there are that say the exact same thing, though. They've really beaten that dead horse.

    That being said, the human mind is capable of far more than what most people give it credit for. It's a shame we have to convince people they are capable of greatness.

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    again this is very true
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    It depends on two things. First, the direction being given has to be good for a person's individual goals. Second, the person has to be open and willing to try to affect substantial change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan View Post
    Do any of you believe in self-help material/books like in the vain of Tony Robbins, The Secret, etc, and has any of it ever worked for you?


    Just curious.
    It's a scam, Sir. It's mostly all common sense. You're only making Tony Robbins richer by buying his books and allowing him to buy another Ferrari or another house in Europe.

    This is a useless quote that means nothing but yet defines me as a profound intellect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey View Post
    It's a scam, Sir. It's mostly all common sense. You're only making Tony Robbins richer by buying his books and allowing him to buy another Ferrari or another house in Europe.
    This is what libraries are for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey View Post
    It's a scam, Sir. It's mostly all common sense. You're only making Tony Robbins richer by buying his books and allowing him to buy another Ferrari or another house in Europe.
    Some people need to hear/read it from other people even if they know it already.
    Brad08 has some insight for people who don't understand... anything.
    This is so ****ing ******ed it's almost beyond belief. So, if you eat 3k, you will automatically gain 3k worth of fat or muscle? Incredible. And here I am eating all this food, yet maintaining my weight. Fascinating.

    You're one of those pussies that counts his almonds I bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    It depends on two things. First, the direction being given has to be good for a person's individual goals. Second, the person has to be open and willing to try to affect substantial change.
    This.

    It is no different than a coach giving instruction to an athlete. If the athlete is not in a place to benefit from the instruction (mentally,physically, emotionally), then it's a waste.
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    I had a really rough break-up years ago (she's now my wife) and someone offered up some Tony Robbins tapes. I was in a bad place. I was able to take some good stuff away from them. I'm a big believer in the psychology of things now. I use sports psychology with my competing. Give it a try. You have nothing to lose except for a few bucks.


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    I was actually surprised by that movie "The Secret". Yes, a lot of it is stupid, but some of the things they said actually help. Again, though, you have to be willing to change yourself for any of it to work. Honestly, though, it put me in a balls-to-the-wall, ready-to-change-my-life mood for about 3 days and then I slowly started screwing every girl at the bar I could and slacking off again at work, so the boost was temporary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdizenzo View Post
    I had a really rough break-up years ago (she's now my wife) and someone offered up some Tony Robbins tapes. I was in a bad place. I was able to take some good stuff away from them. I'm a big believer in the psychology of things now. I use sports psychology with my competing. Give it a try. You have nothing to lose except for a few bucks.
    I already have one of his books, 'Awaken the Giant Within.' I'm nearly finished reading it, applied most of the stuff, participated in the "exercises," but overall I'd say it hasn't really helped me. It just makes you feel all happy and shiny for a few days or less, then you're back at square one. That's been my experience, at least.

    Anyway, I was curious to see who believes in self help, and if anyone has been successful. Not really on the fence as to if I should try it or not.
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    Again, it depends where you're trying to go and what you're using to help you get there.

    Really, self help material is just a map. You have to make sure you've got the right one.
    If one person can do something, anyone can learn to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFGUITAR View Post
    Some people need to hear/read it from other people even if they know it already.
    I agree with what others have said and especially this.

    I've never read an earth shattering book, but have read a couple that jived with what I already thought.

    It just made my thinking even more concrete and let me know I was on the right path.
    Without progression, I am nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan View Post
    It just makes you feel all happy and shiny for a few days or less, then you're back at square one. That's been my experience, at least.
    The key is to feel happy and shiny for a day. Then 2 days. Then a week. Then a month..............then a lifetime.

    It isn't what lies in the book, its what lies within you.
    Without progression, I am nothing.

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    I read this book, How to Get Control of Your Time and Your Life by Alan Lakein, and nothing has helped me more to prioritize and work towards what I want out of life, let alone figure out the things I want out of life.
    http://www.amazon.com/Control-Your-T.../dp/0451167724
    It's the only self-help book I have ever read, so I can't speak for any others. I do agree with Viking's posts as well.
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