here is the routine i layed out and asked rob if it was ok
sun-grappling and boxing
mon-lightest bench day
wed-med intensity bench day and lower body
fri-heavy bench day
Good work in here Slashkills. Congrats on the 3 plate DL.
I like that routine. I bet you'll put some weight on your squats and deads too only having 1 lower day per week.
Layout looks good and I'm interested in what you hear back. I found the question, but it wasn't informative. It just said to focus on kickboxing and structure your training to not hinder kickboxing. So no help.
well... i got an answerRyan, I don't know if it'll work, if your eating habits are ideal, supplementation, and lifestyle in check, it'll certainly help, you're just going to have to tweak the intensity/volume of the boxing/grappling workouts so as to not take away from your bench goals since that is your priority right now, I don't know what else you are doing besides benching of the two non max effort days.
You are training four days in a row so you have to manage the training stressors to the cns as something will give in either workout as the fatigue accumulates.
If your bench continues to stall, tweak your boxing workouts to support your goal of a bigger bench, enough to see the gains you want, since that is your priority in training now.
Keep me posted on your progress and let me know if you need anything else.
also if anyone is interested this is Rob's blog. There is some informative stuff in there.
Last edited by slashkills; 11-25-2009 at 05:07 PM.
I think that makes sense. I think he's trying to say that you have to focus on one or the other to some extent, and that by doing so many other things you are pulling yourself in a lot of directions. I think you know that, though, and you seem to be coping with it pretty well.
It's kinda like when Wendler says you can't serve too many masters. You have to make one your main priority. Try it for awhile and see how it works.
Yea i know what he is saying. Im right on the border of making mma and powerlifting work. Im just barely doing it i think. My original template was doomed from the beginning because boxing is way to rough on my shoulders and any benching will suffer. 4 straight days of that is craziness. Ill have to keep listening to my body and doing what i can when im feeling good.
here is my revised plan
sun-boxing,conditioning,grappling(3hours of training)
wed-medium intensity bench and boxing afterwords
fri-heavy bench and lower
just so i dont have as many consecutive days of training.
Im going to think this over for a while and if im not sure about it ill just stick with westside.
I think I like that better because you have more days to recuperate, but Sunday would totally kick my tail. Keep at it, bud. I like your determination.
Oh, and Rob Pilger's site is actually www.robpilger.com. That other site is old. You are right though, Rob has a lot of great stuff on his site.
He is also associated with and works on www.boxingperformance.com. I think that you would really like that site, Slash.
Ill take a look at the newer site. I seen boxingperformance.com earlier but i didnt have time to sign up for it(got to pay) i may sign up later because it looks like it has a ton of valuabe info.
Ill give that latest routine a try and see how it goes. If im feeling busted up more than usual im going to pull the plug pretty fast i think and go back to westside. Something ive noticed about my bench is that Heavy sets of DB bench really help and so do board presses. Nothing else compares to either of those. Im going to do some heavy DB inclines for reps as well now.
Last edited by slashkills; 11-25-2009 at 09:55 PM.
10x like 30 in ea. arm
Last edited by slashkills; 11-26-2009 at 08:33 AM.
Solid recovery day man...one thing to remember, 'diet is key' - especially with you being on a limb with the weights and cardio on top of the MMA training.
You've done well with everything up to this point and tweaking your diet to serve your needs is what will put you over the top with it all imo, along with solid periods of rest/sleep, of course.
115x3cg-cause 105 felt good
light DB Bench, incline presses, DB Rows, curls, wrist rollers
lots of dynamic and static stretching
5min walk on treadmill
Notes: i did a lot of stretches for me legs and hips becuase for the past two days my knee hurts when ever sit in a chair or bend to parallel ish. I think i hurt it playing football on thanksgiving. So i tried stretching out my legs thinking that maybe tight legs were putting pressure on my knee... nope. I put a heating pad on last night for 20min and that made it feel great for about 20min afterwords. Im gonna go use heating pad again now. I dont think its anything too serious. Grappling, conditioning, and boxing classes tomorrow. Im also going to stick with westside. 3 pressing days and mma is to much.
Christmas lights are a giant pain in the ass. I spent 2 hours this morning fixing lights. I took a 9volt battery and tested every light in the strand. I finally found a loose wire and ghetto rigged it with some electrical tape.
Last edited by slashkills; 11-28-2009 at 10:58 AM.
well i just played 2 hours of football and my knee was sore at first but it feels fine now. Guess it was just a fluke. A painfull fluke though.
Awesome how you always stay so active, you don't be stopping for ****, lol.
Nice work and I'm glad that the knee was a fluke!
boxing for 1hour- i got to spar with one of the more experienced guys today. It went pretty well. I My offense is really comming together nicely and today my defense was pretty good. I was slipping shots and i wasnt so tight today. I was sitting down a little more instead of standing straight up. My instructor said if i keep this up ill be in the actual mma fighting class which they said normally takes guys 6-8months to get into. Ive been doing this for 4ish months.
1 hour cardio class-holy crap this killed. Lots of suicides, med ball circuts, dummy punch out drills, bag work, muay thai sparring, ab stuff.
was gonna do grappling but F dat
now off to watch cutler and the bears o line get put on their ass repeatedly by the vikings d line
Last edited by slashkills; 11-29-2009 at 02:13 PM.
After a lot of though i decided to give block periodization a run. With quite a bit of help from Jbrin0tk i think i understand what the deal is. Im pretty confident that this will boost my lifts and help build up my endurance. Here is my new routine
*all off days can become mma days depending on how i feel and class schedules
So here is my first workout, any critiques are welcomed.
Accumulation phase week one, upper
125lbsx6x5 (60% of max)
125lbsx12-not to failure, i could have gone 8ish more
135lbsx3x8-not heavy but enough to feel a decent pump (65% of max)
DB Incline press
light band pull aparts x alot
Ghetto t bar rows
Notes: my schedule is a little messed up this week but it will be fine
Last edited by slashkills; 11-30-2009 at 05:13 PM.
Good work man! I don't know much about block periodization, so I'll leave the critiques to someone else, but it looks like you got some good work in. Keep up the good work!
It looks good, bud. Try more of 4 or 5 x 10 on the assistance work. If you continue with DB rows, try throwing in a high rep (20+) set here and there at the end with a heavy weight. It's a great way to develop grip. Remember, the goal is conditioning, hypertrophy, and technique. And remember to keep up with the eating. If you are trying to get stronger, you probably don't want to lose weight.
Keep it rolling bro, did very nicely with sparring and the new program.
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Nice work man. I'm real interested to see how your block periodization works out. Good luck.
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Famous Dave's is the shiznit. My wife and I went there this summer. I ate 2 full racks of ribs, 2 corn on the cob, 3 pieces of corn bread, and two bowls of mac and cheese. I can't wait to go back lol.
box squats(paused not tap and go)
135x3x10-was gonna do 4 sets but it wasnt happening tonight, ill be able to do this soon
30lbs in ea. hand 4x10
up weight next week
rack pulls(right below knee)