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    How much weight can i expect to use doing pin press lockouts at my weakpoint which is from the starting point? I imagine alot less then your max since it kills the shoulders and the higher you go the more weight you can pack on. right know i am a RAW 475ish touch and go bencher and 450ish pause bencher. please give me some numbers for the pin press at strating point

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    Do you mean doing pin presses with the bar basically starting on your chest? That sounds like a pec tear or shoulder injury waiting to happen. Especially with the poundages you are dealing with. I can't even do pin presses for pure lockout work without injuring something.
    I you're confident you can do this without injuring yourself, start very light and work up slowly to get a feel for the exercise.

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    basically yes at the chest or like right above.

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    These can be done, but it is also an exercise that can ealily lead to injury. There is a lot of strain on the shoulders and pecs right there. If I were you I would only do these with light weights and try to generate speed from there instead of worrying about how much weight you can do....jmo
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    I really believe there a far better options for building low end strength.
    There are so many things that will help that are far less dangerous.
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    really rough on the shoulders. There was a thread not to long ago about building low end strength. Take a look at it for some other suggestions.

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    ya i did read it and it said shoulder and lat work and pin presses were thrown in there too. What else bench wise can i do to build low end strength? I only have 2 and 3 board acess and i practice pauses? What about floor presses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bald bull View Post
    ya i did read it and it said shoulder and lat work and pin presses were thrown in there too. What else bench wise can i do to build low end strength? I only have 2 and 3 board acess and i practice pauses? What about floor presses?
    I am pretty new to floor presses but if the bar is close to your chest at the bottom they would work really well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bencher8 View Post
    These can be done, but it is also an exercise that can ealily lead to injury. There is a lot of strain on the shoulders and pecs right there.
    Why is this? I've heard a lot of people say this but I've never understood why. You never hear about hamstring/lower back injuries when people do concentric good mornings. Why is the concentric motion more dangerous here? I though the eccentric portion was where most injuries occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazerboy View Post
    Why is this? I've heard a lot of people say this but I've never understood why. You never hear about hamstring/lower back injuries when people do concentric good mornings. Why is the concentric motion more dangerous here? I though the eccentric portion was where most injuries occurred.

    BTW there are a few strong dudes who do them. Rob has put up some huge static press numbers: http://www.wannabebig.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=121391
    Rob is ridiculously strong and has a build to handle such stressors. I used to do them, but found them too tough on my body.

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    Dumbbell presses and cambered bar benching has helped my bottom end
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    4" cambered bar to a 2 board, illegal wide grip bench press, dumbells, speed work, lat work(heavydumbel rows), pullups, etc......

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    I raw press around 50 lbs less than you and do pin presses with 225-315ish.... I like how they teach you to stay tight ( which carries over to geared benching).... why not just try them and see how you like them for yourself?

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    what about wide grip inclines to help the bench press? or is regular inclines better?

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    I've been doing illegal wides a lot recently. When I go back to the closer grips they feel much more comfortable on my shoulders.

    Quote Originally Posted by barbell01 View Post
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    Can this be done as a max effort exercise safely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGROK View Post
    I've been doing illegal wides a lot recently. When I go back to the closer grips they feel much more comfortable on my shoulders.



    Can this be done as a max effort exercise safely?
    i wouldn't, if i ever do them i usally just do sets of 5 or so.....

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    will regular incline help up your bench if u go heavy 1-3 rep zone?

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