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    Neck muscles need specific exercises to grow big compound exercises dont help much;

    This is just an article i read on ergo-log wanted to get some feedback from what ya'll think.

    http://www.ergo-log.com/thickneck.html

    Now im sure that the compound movements hit the neck at least somewhat, compared to someone that doesnt do any exercise but it seems not much.

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    "The researchers donít exclude the possibility that long-term general training increases the neck muscles, but think that the message is clear: if you want to strengthen your neck quickly, for whatever reason, youíll have to do separate neck training exercises. "

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    Neck size is largely related to your body structure. Much like calves with direct stimulus you can get them to grow but many people have different starting points and your neck generally will stay proportioned to your arms/calves with most individuals.

    I cannot understand why anyone would want to have a larger neck anyway? It could lead to sleep apnea and could actually make you appear to look smaller if the rest of your body is not proportioned. A larger neck does not equal larger traps; which would be more aesthetically pleasing in my opinion.

    My neck size has been anywhere from 16 1/2" to 18"+ and I have never done any direct neck training, so I am not sure that I agree with the recommendations from your article.
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    I wouldn't put too much stock in that article bro... For all you know they took a couple hungover college kids and had them do squats holding pink dumbbells or some ****. If you get bigger, your neck will get bigger as well.
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    My neck is 23" I have never trained it once.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vdizenzo View Post
    My neck is 23" I have never trained it once.
    One of my friends in NJ (also a powerlifter) had a 23" neck. He went to try to buy a dress shirt for a wedding and the guy in the store started laughing at him and said there is no way that he would have anything that would fit him.
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    I've never done any direct neck training, either. My neck got larger as the rest of me got larger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mutaffis View Post
    One of my friends in NJ (also a powerlifter) had a 23" neck. He went to try to buy a dress shirt for a wedding and the guy in the store started laughing at him and said there is no way that he would have anything that would fit him.
    Mine's just under 23", I've never trained mine either. It is hard to find dress shirts ( well because of that and my sleeve length is like 40" ), but when they do have them in my neck size, the shirt is like a huge tent around the waist even with my gut.

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    That article is kind of funny though...

    But some wrestlers and power lifters have a neck of such impressive proportions that it can hardly be regarded as a weak spot. Do you want to acquire a bull neck too? Dead lifts and neck presses won't help, American sports scientists discovered back in the 1990s. You'll have to train your neck muscles separately.
    If deadlifting doesn't build your neck, why would powerlifters have necks of "such impressive proportions". I'm pretty sure none of my powerlifting buddies train their neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTallOx View Post
    That article is kind of funny though...



    If deadlifting doesn't build your neck, why would powerlifters have necks of "such impressive proportions". I'm pretty sure none of my powerlifting buddies train their neck.
    Article is very contradictory.

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    I weigh 212 and mine is 18".
    When I was wrestling I was 180 and it was 17", I did a lot of bridging back then and I know that put an inch on.
    Going from 17 to 18" was from powerlifting and NO direct neck work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mutaffis View Post
    One of my friends in NJ (also a powerlifter) had a 23" neck. He went to try to buy a dress shirt for a wedding and the guy in the store started laughing at him and said there is no way that he would have anything that would fit him.
    I am WAY smaller and I had the same thing, a lady measured my neck and laughed when I was buying a shirt for a new job.
    I just put the tie on without buttoning the top button.
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    The researchers donít exclude the possibility that long-term general training increases the neck muscles, but think that the message is clear: if you want to strengthen your neck quickly, for whatever reason, youíll have to do separate neck training exercises.

    Above is a quote from the article's conclusion.

    One local strength coach at a small university, who inspired and encouraged a lot of students over the years, used to recommend strengthening the neck, esp. for his football and wrestling athletes, but also everyone, mostly to protect against neck strains. I think he liked the way a thick neck looked, like it indicated strength, but he was mostly practical about what he taught.

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    Yeah thats the same quote i used in my first post for this, you will get a bigger neck as you train as your neck most likely gets a light workout during your routines but unlike say the tricep which is used a good amount with most of your chest workouts the neck for most exercises isnt nearly as much involved.

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    My neck measures about 17.5 inches relaxed (compared to my height and weight I think it's not that bad of a size?) and I have always been a big believer in direct neck training ever since I've wrestled in high school. If you want to have a big neck, then direct neck training will certainly help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Mutaffis View Post
    I cannot understand why anyone would want to have a larger neck anyway?
    Well, since we are talking about Bodybuilding, it's understandable. Simply put, everybody desires different things.
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    Direct neck training does more to strengthen your neck han to cause muscle growth. If you are working your whole body effectively and eating and sleeping enough, your neck should grow with the rest of you according to your genetics.
    The only specific reasons I know of to do direct neck work are wrestling (as MightyPitbull mentioned) and MMA fighting/boxing, so as to provide the strength to evade a choke or nerve-smacking knockout strike.
    If you do find it necessary to add direct neck work into your routine, do a search for routines created by ex-fighter Bas Rutten. The only neck exercises I have seen were performed by him in his training videos. You should be warned to be very careful performing some of the exercises, as a neck injury from bad form could be very painful and/or debilitating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium_Jim View Post
    Direct neck training does more to strengthen your neck han to cause muscle growth. If you are working your whole body effectively and eating and sleeping enough, your neck should grow with the rest of you according to your genetics.
    The only specific reasons I know of to do direct neck work are wrestling (as MightyPitbull mentioned) and MMA fighting/boxing, so as to provide the strength to evade a choke or nerve-smacking knockout strike.
    If you do find it necessary to add direct neck work into your routine, do a search for routines created by ex-fighter Bas Rutten. The only neck exercises I have seen were performed by him in his training videos. You should be warned to be very careful performing some of the exercises, as a neck injury from bad form could be very painful and/or debilitating.
    Just so you know a big neck WILL NOT give you the strength to evade a choke.
    Once it's on your gone, the carotid artery's are on the outside of the neck muscles and that's how you put someone to sleep, the brain shuts you down when it stops getting blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium_Jim View Post
    Direct neck training does more to strengthen your neck han to cause muscle growth. If you are working your whole body effectively and eating and sleeping enough, your neck should grow with the rest of you according to your genetics.
    The only specific reasons I know of to do direct neck work are wrestling (as MightyPitbull mentioned) and MMA fighting/boxing, so as to provide the strength to evade a choke or nerve-smacking knockout strike.
    If you do find it necessary to add direct neck work into your routine, do a search for routines created by ex-fighter Bas Rutten. The only neck exercises I have seen were performed by him in his training videos. You should be warned to be very careful performing some of the exercises, as a neck injury from bad form could be very painful and/or debilitating.
    This makes sense, for some athletes to be interested in additional neck strength if their sport involves blows to the head (football, MMA). The article was about building neck size and not strength though.
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    Just so you know a big neck WILL NOT give you the strength to evade a choke.
    Once it's on your gone, the carotid artery's are on the outside of the neck muscles and that's how you put someone to sleep, the brain shuts you down when it stops getting blood.
    Having a strong neck is a huge advantage in ground fighting and especially when fighting off a rear-naked choke attempt. I don't know if you have ever rolled before but when you have a guy on your back trying to wrench your head around to sink in a choke, it is very exhausting on your neck muscles. When your strength fails is when you get choked.

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    I used to use one of those leather headset things that you attach the weight too when i used to be in HS wrestling, worked well enough. Strong neck also comes in handy in taking punches.

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