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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Honest opinions on this deadlift

    Last night I squatted 600 in briefs/belt/knee sleeves which was a PR. Afterwards I decided to pull heavy again, for some odd reason. Last week I hit 535x2 real strong. This week I put 550 on and wanted to hit a strong single for a PR. I felt like I wasn't fully locked as I was fighting through the top(I often have issues with the last 1-2" on my max pulls). I know you only have one angle and it's a video, but let me know what you think.

    Any tips on why my lockout sucks and what I can do about would be appreciated.

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    Hard to tell with one angle only. Did not looked fully locked out. Try and loosen the straps on the suit a little bit. Do your raw dls stop in the same spot? If possible, bring your grip IN just a little bit. Turn your toes out MORE. This should help.

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    It looked like you locked, I saw your body shift position in the way it would look like when a person locks out. I can't imagine what it feels like to hold that much, great job man.

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    it looked locked out to me.

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    Nice pull chris.

    Since you say your having trouble with your lockout, why not cycle some rack pulls in. From above the knee?
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    that was locked...cycle in the pulls off blocks to get extra volume on your top end...you smoked that joker off the floor.
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    It looked locked out to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGT ROCK View Post
    Hard to tell with one angle only. Did not looked fully locked out. Try and loosen the straps on the suit a little bit. Do your raw dls stop in the same spot? If possible, bring your grip IN just a little bit. Turn your toes out MORE. This should help.

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    I actually do get stuck in the same area raw as well. I feel like I am good for so much more off the floor. I just can't seem to figure out EXACTLY what is wrong with me finishing the heavy pulls. We have tried to figure out if it is an upper back weakness, glute weakness, timing problem, etc. I actually moved my grip out a few months back and my lockout was feeling much better. It seemed if I was too narrow it was harder to get my shoulders back.
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    Your head position is what makes it look not fully locked...but that was a white light from the front.
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    I see it as 2 to 1 with the judges and it could have gone either way depending on their mood. I am no deadlift specialist but I do have some advice. Get down and grab the bar and lift. Too much time to think in your approach. JMHO. Very strong though.


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    It looked locked to me. Sick speed off the floor man!
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    I would give you the lift. Like Vincent said, it would just depend on the mood of the judges.


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    The head position thing is true. It's a bad habit to look down as you lockout a pull.

    I like what you said too Vin. I do take waaaaay to long to grab the bar and go. I need to just grab the damn thing and pull!
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    Definitely looks locked out to me.
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    Man i think you were locked you got some nice speed off the floor my friend.

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    Looked locked out to me. If you hadn't squatted heavy right before you probably would have been perfect.
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    Try not waiting so long to pull...you are almost thinking yourself out of the lift. I do the same damn thing. Reverse band pulls helps your lockout tremendously as I feel rack pulls put you in an advantageous position to pull some sick weight, reverse bands give you the same hard lock out work that you need without putting you out of position.

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    damn you chalk the hell outta your thighs lol. The pull looked good to me, maybe a little extra extenstion on the top would have ensured a legit pull but still it looked clean. The only thing I can say is just focus on thrusting those hips forward at the end, but yet again, what do I know.
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    Your concern at this point shouldnt be if it is locked out, most feel it was, but rather why you slow down so much at the top, which is what you seem most concerned with, so good on you for that. As Vin stated, quit thinking, pull the dag gone thing. Also try the toes out. Don't overanalyze either, everyone has a sticking point. Although it seems like your bar speed is great, always remember, if you have MORE bar speed it WILL carry to THROUGH the top.

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    Looks like you could've pulled 600 with how easy that weight came up. And it looked locked out to me, but I'm not exactly sure what a correctly locked out deadlift vs. a non-locked out deadlift looks like in powerlifting.
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    I agree with the toes. I think it's easier to push your hips through and use your glutes if they are out a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rodgers View Post
    The head position thing is true. It's a bad habit to look down as you lockout a pull.

    I like what you said too Vin. I do take waaaaay to long to grab the bar and go. I need to just grab the damn thing and pull!
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    looked good... definitely locked at the top, your knees looked maybe a bit bent... if anything
    Your form was good so certainly that's not an issue...

    Someone mentioned toes out a bit, this will help release the hips easier. Try not wearing a t-shirt so the suit straps don't bind up forward at the top. Your shoulders have to be able to release backwards and sometimes the suit can hold you forward if the straps are tight and not allowing your shoulders to slide back under them. I use an Erector shirt for this very thing... Some just wet their shoulders and lats so there is no sticking points at the top without a shirt on. that's only one idea though....

    Other than that, it looked strong... some said block pulls and you gotta hit those up, just like any other lift, train all phases of it. Maybe 1-2" below the knee cap and perform reps, not singles. Learn to grind... and grind hard.. doubles and triples are awesome for that.

    Again, just another idea and input.

    Hope it helps... good luck
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    Looked good to me from the front. They key to a good lockout is a good mohamk.

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    As fast as that started i though you were going to do it 5 times, Have you tried bands on deadlift?

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